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Old 12-31-2004, 09:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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yep thats all, there usually isnt anything else after the cat besides piping and a muffler
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Old 12-31-2004, 09:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It's all so clear now! Cat-back systems have nothing to do with changing your cat! Well, I guess I've done a "cat-back" system. Stuck a Flowmaster on there.
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Old 01-09-2005, 03:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It's all so clear now! Cat-back systems have nothing to do with changing your cat! Well, I guess I've done a "cat-back" system. Stuck a Flowmaster on there.
Well, not really.. you replaced the muffler... This is a cat-back system: http://209.250.27.45/m1webgear/Produ...PartRevisionID=

It replaces everything from the "catalytic back"....

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Old 01-09-2005, 08:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, not really.. you replaced the muffler... This is a cat-back system: http://209.250.27.45/m1webgear/Produ...PartRevisionID=

It replaces everything from the "catalytic back"....

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So I just have to stick on some new pipe.
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Old 01-09-2005, 08:42 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Exactly.....before and after the muffler.
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Old 01-10-2005, 07:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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not true, anything can be done. a custom header could be made to have 2 cylinders each feeding into their own muffler. it would be expensive and a waste, but it could be done

it would be a waste to do anything more than a single in/dual out muffler. you would end up loosing alot more than you would gain. just throw on some headers and get a cat-back system.
Does this apply also to the 2ZZ-GE for the Matrix 'cause it bein' a 4 banger?
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Old 02-15-2005, 11:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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not true, anything can be done. a custom header could be made to have 2 cylinders each feeding into their own muffler. it would be expensive and a waste, but it could be done

it would be a waste to do anything more than a single in/dual out muffler. you would end up loosing alot more than you would gain. just throw on some headers and get a cat-back system.
Wrong, a *TRUE* dual exhaust can only be done on a 6 or 8 cyl. The fact that a I4 only has 1 head, means 1 exhaust manifold. Sure you can put in a T pipe or a Y pipe and have two tips come out, but it would only be considered *TRUE* if you have 2 heads and 2 manifolds or headers.
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Wrong, a *TRUE* dual exhaust can only be done on a 6 or 8 cyl. The fact that a I4 only has 1 head, means 1 exhaust manifold. Sure you can put in a T pipe or a Y pipe and have two tips come out, but it would only be considered *TRUE* if you have 2 heads and 2 manifolds or headers.
like i said, making a custom header to have the duals would be expensive and a waste, it can be done. theres nothing that limits you to a design. regarless of what came off, you can make a 2 piece header. 2 short pieces to fit side-by-side, each taking the exhaust from 2 cylinders and exiting through TRUE DUALS. i will be the first to say that it is a stupid idea, but it could be done. but if it were to be done, it cwould then be considered a true dual exhaust.

and who wrote this law that you can only have it on a 6 or 8 cylinder? you? what prevents a 10 or 12 cylinder engine from having true duals? if they are in the V formation, they would have 2 manifolds and according to your theory thats what is needed for true duals. so what about inline 6's? i havent seen any that have 2 manifolds. your theory about true duals is like guy who told the auto designers a car couldnt be make of glass. can you say Corvette?
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You just said it yourself, the V motors not the I motors, if they were ment to have 2 manifolds they would. Sorry I forgot about the rediculous 10 and 12 cyl. motors. I understand what your saying about it could be done on an I motor. But *2* heads result into *2* manifolds which can be turned into dual exhaust. The catback duals for I motors is just that a catback. Not a true duals. Not looking to make enemys just stating my opinion.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:48 AM   #25 (permalink)
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You just said it yourself, the V motors not the I motors, if they were ment to have 2 manifolds they would. Sorry I forgot about the rediculous 10 and 12 cyl. motors. I understand what your saying about it could be done on an I motor. But *2* heads result into *2* manifolds which can be turned into dual exhaust. The catback duals for I motors is just that a catback. Not a true duals. Not looking to make enemys just stating my opinion.
i aint trying to make enimies either. but you need to understand that i wasnt talking about stuff in the realm of bolt-on accessories. if someone wanted to, regardless of the amount of manifolds, a true dual exhaust could be fabricated. anything in the "V" formation could have true duals. wether it be a Harley with 2 cylinders, or a V12 Viper. but with some custom work, you could have a set of headers that would bolt up side-by-side on a "I" type engine. then it would be possible to have true duals on your inline 4, 6, 8, or whatever

but like i said before, its a pretty big waste to do it like that, but anything is possible
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Old 02-16-2005, 03:32 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Agreed. This is done.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:08 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Hey--the horse is still breathing so I'm gonna kick it again--why does everyone talk about a cat-back so much? Why not start with new headers and replace the whole exhaust? Is it just cost, and adding a cat-back exhaust is a good bang-for-the-buck deal? Curious, because this will probably be the next thing I do after I put in the K&N FIPK kit that FINALLY got delivered Monday night.
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