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Old 04-18-2005, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Timing Chain Kit

anyone ever tried this kit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33625
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Old 04-18-2005, 11:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Seller posts here and is from all accounts, a good person to do business with. I'd have no reservations. JMO
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Old 04-18-2005, 11:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That is a great kit put together by 'engnbldr'. Mostly everyone knows about him and his kits that he puts together. I think everyone would recommend his kits. Someone recommended his kit to me, and at that price I couldn't say no. I was very happy with it, especially with the warranty is has.

Wait, hold on a minute. That kit doesn't have the steel guide rail! Here is his kit with steel guide:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...968326211&rd=1

That is definitly the kit you want. The kit you mentioned has the OEM guide rails (which are both plastic) that you don't want. You need to have a steel guide on the drivers side and regular on the pass. side.....like that other auction.

I didn't even know 'engnbldr' offered a kit with OEM guide rails. Anyways, if you buy a kit from him (which i highly recommend), definitly get that kit from the link i provided.

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Old 04-19-2005, 01:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That looks like a great kit. I have been hoping to do all that. I think I will get it as well.


Thanks for the post!
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Ted (engnbldr) has been in the auto engine rebuidling business for at least 40 years and has excellent products and service,his homepage is below:

The best brand of aftermarket timing chain parts to use on the 20R & 22R series Toyota motors are:

http://www.engnbldr.com/ToyotaHotlicks.htm
http://www.22r.biz/
http://www.rpmrons.com/toyotatiming.html
http://www.toyota-engine-parts.com/
http://www.europeanautomotive.com

and if you choose to buy from Toyota these places have the best prices in the USA & probably the whole world:

http://www.1sttoyotaparts.com/partscat.html (10% shipping)
http://www.toyotadiscountparts.com (free shipping with $100 & up)
http://www.Toyotaparts4U.com
http://www.toyotaofplano.com

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Good to know, thanks for the heads up on the metal guides.
This will be the first on my list once I get my car back on the road.
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Is the timing chain replacement job difficult? My 1990 3 liter V6 with 150k miles needs this done due to an oil leak.

My mechanic wants to replace the water pump too. His charge for parts is around $300 and his labor charge is $300.

Are any special tools required?

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Is the timing chain replacement job difficult? My 1990 3 liter V6 with 150k miles needs this done due to an oil leak.

My mechanic wants to replace the water pump too. His charge for parts is around $300 and his labor charge is $300.

Are any special tools required?

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Do it yourself as your Toyota 3VZE engine has a timing belt,this site shows the replacement process which is easy:

http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/v6tbelt/index.html

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looks like a good deal, i payed 70 for my timing chain replacement kit from schucks
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oh and when i replaced my timing chain it took about 1 day. Its not too difficult if you buy a book on your truck that tells you how to do everything. Try doing it yourself, it'll save you alot of money. Oh and by the way the plastic tensioners are gonna be ripped to hell and some peices will probably fall in your oil pan.
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Oh and by the way the plastic tensioners are gonna be ripped to hell and some peices will probably fall in your oil pan.
So I guess I should get a oil pan gasket as well
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I went out and looked at my truck (1990 with 3 liter V6) during lunch and am a little confused.

My mechanic is the one that says the timing chain seal needs replacing and recommended replacing the chain, tensioners and water pump. Now it turns out that it isn't a chain at all, but a belt.

I had pictured it having a timing chain being bathed with oil and a seal needing to be replaced. But now I'm wondering where the oil is leaking from and how replacing these items is going to correct the oil leak. Is it more likely the crank seal that needs replacing?

Oil is definitely leaking at the front of the engine, but I'm not sure from where.

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So I guess I should get a oil pan gasket as well
From what I read in my manual, after a certain year, a pan gasket is not required (I don't remember which year)...so you could use form-a-gasket instead. After doing this myself, I say buy a pan gasket and make it easier on yourself. First of all, applying the gasketmaker is hard enough with the space you have to work with. I thought I got it pretty good, but not good enough to where it is completely leak free. Now I am kicking myself for not getting a gasket.

You are definitly going to want to remove the oil pan to remove the broken up guide. When it falls into the pan, it plastic pieces sit right under the oil pickup, so removing them won't hurt.

And if you have a 4x4 (at least I think it only applies to a 4x4) you will have to remove the motor mount bolts, jack up the engine as far as you can, and put blocks between the mounts to hold the engine up. Doing this gives you the clearance to remove the oil pan. First, unbolt the pan, and while it is hanging, you will have to unbolt the oil pickup before you can remove the pan. Installation is reversed.

Here are some threads on doing the timing chain (with links). Take a look if you want.

replacing timing chain in 22RE
91 22re help


Oh yea, one more thing. When you are removing the many bolts that are involved, I recommend you make a cardboard template. Draw the outline of the timing cover and then poke holes in the spots where the bolts go. When you remove the bolt, stick it in the corresponding spot. Since some bolts are different sizes, you don't want to get them mixed up. This helped me out a lot.

Hope all this helps
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if some of the plastic pieces fall in the oil pan i wouldn't worry about it because its not tough enough to do any damage.
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Glynn,
The cam pulleys go through a seal into the head, those may leak. The front main seal may leak. Belt replacement isn't that hard, but somewhat time consuming. Now, getting the pulleys off to replace the cam or crank seals is a mutha and requires some cool tools or serious ingenuity. You can pull the plastic shields off and see where the oil is coming from before you get too far into it. Belt should be replaced at any rate.

As far as the 22R, I would drop the oil pan just to make sure I sealed up around the timing cover well. As mentioned, its not easy to seal it back up without removing the pan. Also 87_SR5 mentioned a template for the timing cover bolts. This is more than recommended, it's critical. If you put the wrong bolt in the wrong hole you can bind up the tensioner and cause failure of the chain and guides. There is one hole directly in front of the tensioner that requires a short bolt.
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