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Toy Sport 4x4 · 05-15-2005, 05:45 PM

Has anyone here added a cam to their 22re. I am planning on doing one here soon, but was wondering if the performance gain will be noticeable.

sefus · 05-17-2005, 12:45 PM

only with other mods like intake and exhaust will you notice a gain. the cam on its own cant due much. gotta think of it as a system, modin gone part means moding others. id say start with a new exhaust system, maybe with a header.

Toy Sport 4x4 · 05-17-2005, 05:08 PM

Thanks already have header flowmaster and no cat. I made my own air intake by cutting out the stock air box and putting a k&n filter in and made a smoother flowing pipe going to the tb. I was told that the stock toy heads flow pretty good and that i might be happy with just adding a cam and not having head work done. I know the head would also make a big difference with a cam up grade but didn't know if the cam along would add a noticeable gain. Mainly i am looking for more throttle response and tourqe improvement. Plan on adding a jacoubs ignition but have heard they are not worth the money. Any input would be greatly apreciated.

sefus · 05-18-2005, 02:54 PM

well then you are READY for a cam. check out engnbldr.com for the best ones out there imo. ive got a full msd on mine and did it with a ton of other stuff at the same time so on its own i dont know if you'll see a difference in adding an ignition.

truck action · 05-19-2005, 11:41 AM

Check out LC Engineering, they are the ones that know the 22re engines. I've run their upper end stuff with great improvement's! Now have their complete engine. Good service & parts!

sefus · 05-19-2005, 07:38 PM

NONONONONONO! Why whould you send anyone to LC?! Engnbldr does countless dyno tests to make sure their stuff is the best for the average joe, their prices are great and they wont bs you. LC is for people who think they can get high hp and turn your rig into a racer. ask LC a question and they will tell you a $500 answer - as in you will have to spend at least that much on what they offer as an answer. -end justified rant.

Toy Sport 4x4 · 05-19-2005, 10:37 PM

I have delt a little with lc engineering and agree. not to say that they don't have good stuff but they are over priced. I ordered a full color catalog back in oct of 2004 and still have not got it. Every time i ask them about it they say it should be sent next month. And that I guess just doesn't ever get here. For what you spend in there parts you could swap in a v8 and get real power. I have looked at engnbldr and crane. Everyone that I have talked to said the crane would be a better choice because it is a dual pattern (262/272) and it would have better throttle response than a single pattern.

CuriousBuilder · 06-13-2005, 04:45 PM

I purchased my cam from NorthWest Offroad and I personally love it. The cams that they sell are Schnieder (sorry if spelled wrong) racing cam. I also have a NWOR tri-y header and with this combination I was able to spin 33" on pavement in second gear with the toyota automatic tranny, no gearing changes. Its all a matter of personal preference though where you want to purchase the cam.

sonofmayhem · 06-13-2005, 10:24 PM

how hard is a cam to install, and what would i have to change?
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CuriousBuilder · 06-13-2005, 10:54 PM

With my cam swap, I ended up replacing the head gasket down the road. I think that if you want to do a swap in that it is pretty much nessary to change the head gasket, and I could very well be wrong on this. The reason I say this is because that when you pull off the rocker arms you remove all of the head bolts and depending on how hard the rocker arms are seated on the head, you will probably shift the head and tear the gasket even if just a little bit.

The cam is a pretty easy install, it all depends on your mechanical ability.

Look for some of the other posts as to what all else to change, I've only done this once and I put a header on as well, so I can't really tell you as to what all "needs" to be changed.

rogerman · 06-14-2005, 03:37 AM

the early heads flow the best the later heads arent so great but the later blocks are better. yeah engnbldr has the best prices ive seen so far. i know this is off from the cam topic but u msd guys how is the new ignition? im thinkin of gettin an off road one

alltrac165 · 06-23-2005, 12:12 PM

I wouldn't say the stock head flows good, that's for sure. That head was designed for low rpm torque, good economy and clean emissions. Not flow. I can't remember exactly, but I think my stock head flowed around 167 cfm on the intake, and roughly 80% of that on the exhaust. Any modern 2 liter will outflow it with ease. After just bowl work, we got around 185, I think, and still held about 80% on the exhaust. I didn't put a cam in, but you can still feel the difference. I climb a few hills on the way home and am able to maintian higher speeds or accellerate where I couldn't before. I just sold the truck to a friend who's putting a cam in. So I can report on that later.
Cams need to be designed around your engine. I would talk to an expert and see what will work good with YOUR engine. Most off the shelf cams are ground with either a stock set-up in mind or specific mods. That is most likely why a dual pattern grind is offered by Crane. The stock exhaust is horrible and the engine might do well with more duration on the exhaust to get it all out. With a header, you may well overscavenge with too much duration on the exhaust side and actually LOSE power. I would go with Engnbldr stuff. That is what I had originally planned on, but I cheaped out since I knew I was selling my truck anyway.