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[sonofmayhem]

just got my truck, 85 efi 22e sr5 std. cab, 5spd 4x4, back from earl shieb, DONT EVER GO THERE THEY WASTE YOUR MONEY! anyways and now the truck is knocking, spitting oil everywhere, overheating, and i have no power steering or brakes, but it still drives. so im very pissed off right now. any tips, would be greatly appreciated. thanks

[rogerman]

ouch sad to hear that bro

[rotarex]

take it back for a free fix and more and if they dont agree do what i would do, beat them with a iron pipe with an elbo on the end

[rotarex]

orrrrr option 2 do more reading on your truck, get handy with tools rent tools and equeptment, mess up a bit and fix ur truck with trial and error

[Sidney]

Borrow a timing light from any auto parts store that has a "Loan A Tool Program" and measure your engine base timing it should be 5 degrees BTDC with check engine/check timing connector or 8 degrees BTDC without (I think),just check the emission's sticker inside the hood,the owner's manual or service manual as that would cause engine knocking along with overheating and oil spilling.

Then test for a blown headgasket by performing a compression test then leak down test & finally a fluid analysis test by going to any local Caterpillar dealer and purchasing a fluid analysis kit for $15 (or so) or by heading to your nearby heavy duty repair shops and buying a fluid analysis kit.
There are many methods to bleed the cooling system I usually use all of them to be guaranteed that there are is no more air trapped:

Park the vehicle with the front end up on about 30 degree incline then remove the rad cap and start your rig with the heater control on your dashboard set to red hot then while the engine is warming up turn the heater on and every few minutes cycle the heater control from hot to cold and back.Also turn your rear (4-Runner back seats) heater control from low to high.
I also like to rev the rpms up and down from time to time,once the thermostat opens air bubbles should come out and your coolant level should drop therefore top it up and let the stat open again 10 minutes later while repeating your procedure and make sure your overflow bottle to at least 75% capacity.
After your drive your rig let the engine cool down and recheck your overflow bottle level and refill if necessary to about half way.


Then I would pull the ECU codes,about half of the ECU codes stored on the first & second generation EFI Toyotas don't show a constant blinking check engine light therefore you must pull the ECU codes to see if a fault is registered.

To pull the ECU codes:

All 1980-1995 and including 1995 EFI equipped vehicle allow you to find engine and related faults by pulling the ECU (computer) codes without the need for a handheld OBDII diagnosis scanner,the sites listed below have the fault codes needed to pull the codes and the instructions on how to do it:

http://autorepair.about.com/library/...bl-dtcs-36.htm
http://autorepair.about.com/library/...bl-dtcs-53.htm
http://autorepair.about.com/library/...bl-dtcs-71.htm
http://autorepair.about.com/library/...bl-dtcs-90.htm
http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/codes/index.html
http://lcengineering.com/TechNotes/TechNote12.htm
http://lcengineering.com/TechNotes/TechNote13.htm
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/P...ct/Engine.html
http://www.mad-mechanic.com/toyota/t...tml#obtaincode
http://www.freewebs.com/th3duke/22RE-ECU.mht
http://www.troublecodes.net/Toyota/
http://members.igateway.net/~pscott/enginecodes.html
http://www.autobook.co.kr/data_links...uble_codes.htm
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h27.pdf
http://www.showmesome.info/hilux/inf...E/Page0096.htm
http://www.efisakh.narod.ru/at_toyota.htm
http://www.usatransdoctor.com/foreigntoyota.htm

Pulling the ECU codes is the first thing I do to diagnosis a problem thereafter I reset the ECU to see if the same problems show up and if so I then take voltage measurements both with the engine running and not and compare with the factory service manual,I also close the ignition switch after a cold engine and also after a warm engine and compare them with the factory service manual.This technique will completely isolate your problem without having to do trial and error and it is the technique I use when repairing tv's,vcr's,home/car audio.

You can download the free service manuals below:

Any Public Library in your area would have the Factory service manual,Haynes,Chiltons,Mitchells,Clymers,Bentley and Toyota repair books.

There is also free AutoZone service manuals at:

http://www1.autozone.com/servlet/UiB...pair_guide.jsp

For scanned pages of factory service manuals for other engines:

http://www.brian894x4.com/Scannedmanual.html
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~scorp/surf/1KZ-TE.pdf
http://www.showmesome.info/hilux/info/manuals/1KZ-TE
http://surf.mactherapy.com/1KZ-TE.pdf
http://surf.mactherapy.com/parts/
http://www.spyderchat.com/1zzfe.pdf
http://files.matrixvibe.net/docs/1zzfe.pdf
http://landcruiser.free.fr/mans/
http://surf.mactherapy.com
http://www.turbosupras.com/pages/technical/tsrm.htm
http://www.lieblweb.com/tacoma/Mecha...rams/index.htm
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/adherence.4x...techniques.htm
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/adherence.4x4/index.htm
http://www.asatraction4x4.cl/html/
http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/techsite/downloads.htm
http://www.grubinski.com/grubinski/a...oyota.manuals/
http://www.carsoft.ru/files/4runner95di.exe
http://www.hotrodder.com/kwkride/tech.html
http://www.autoshop101.com/autoshop15.html
http://www.mtv411.com/sitemap.htm

1985 Toyota 4-Runner/pickup Factory Service manual:

http://www.jasuza.com/1985toyotatruckfsm.pdf

1993 Toyota Pickup Service Manual:

http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-buchanan/93fsm/

2003 (2001-2004) Toyota Tacoma Factory Service Manual:

http://fsm.afraid.org/
http://www.junglecode.com/toyota/tacoma/2003_fsm/
http://65.200.1.6/FSM/

FSM (factory service manual)can be acquired in several ways:

Toyota Material Distribution Center
750 West Victoria St
Rancho Dominguez/Compton,CA 90220-5538
USA
Ph:1-800-622-2033 (outside CA)(M-F: 7-5 PST)
Ph:1-800-443-7656 (inside CA)
Ph:1-310-818-4630 (in or outside CA)
Speak to Beverly or Deloris
http://techinfo.toyota.com/public/main/mdc.html
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/FSM.shtml

1)buy a used one off e-bay
2)some Toyota dealerships may give you one or sell it for $10-20 (used) as most Toyota dealerships don't repair many old Toyotas and no longer need the service manual
3)some public libraries sell their old books as they are not in demand any longer
4)some free buy & sell classified papers,websites and bulletin boards may have some used ones for sale
5)some junk yards may have one laying around
6)some Toyota specialty garages may have one laying around and no longer use it as the vehicle may be too old and those mechanics probably have so much experience that they could publish their own factory service manual with corrections and "real world repair tips"
7)if someone has the FSM maybe they could scan all of the pages and post it on a site for all of us to download or view.

If engine timing is right on then I suggest removing the valve cover and check to see if the timing chain is installed properly.Carefull don't to loose the half moon valve cover seals both the front and specially the rear.For more info

Finally these sites explain the timing chain replacement well:

http://yotarepair.com/22R%20timingchain.html
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...ingChain.shtml
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/timingchain/

Sidney® ™
Repairs tv's,vcr's,home/car audio out of my home
E-mail:sidneybek@yahoo.com
Dartmouth,Nova Scotia
Canada
1985 Toyota 4-Runner,solid front straight axle,factory cruise control,sunroof,22R-E,W56,RN60LV-MSEK,rusted rear step/towing chrome bumper with 245 000 KM

http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/May02/May18.html
http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/SonyAudMod.html
http://www.newark.com/product-detail...ge/32-9495.jpg
http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Oct02/Oct028.html
http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Oct02/Oct029.html
http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Oct04/Oct041.html

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[triniphen]

earl shieb is the king of quick, shitty paintjobs. why would you let them do mechanical work, or was it in for some serious body repair?

[sonofmayhem]

no it was only for paint and some bondo, nothing serious, but we think they fucked with the engine because my mom called bitching and pissed of the manager, but i was thinking it was the timing chain cover and such.

[Bakemono]

Originally Posted by sonofmayhem

we think they fucked with the engine because my mom called bitching and pissed of the manager, but i was thinking it was the timing chain cover and such.

Hey son of mayhem, read the forum rules buddy:
7. Use the appropriate language.
Cap'n

[sonofmayhem]

Hey Captain Toyota....sorry, just pissed off

[sonofmayhem]

bump

[80toy]

that sucks. if it's really that bad, and you have evidence that they messed with your engine, you could sue them. careful though, some shady shops have developed tricks to get around lawsuits. i had a shady shop do my paint job, and it came out thin and shitty, had some flaws etc. i was lucky that nothing mechanical got f'ed up. about how much did you pay the dude for your paint job?

btw...post some pictures of the paint job and of the messed up stuff, and you can also write about this guy in the feedback:buyers, sellers, vendors section too.

[Ruffrydasean]

eh? we can't curse in this section?

[sonofmayhem]

well i called some guy and he said that the power steering pump could be shot and causing the problems. the lowest pulley on the big belt, is loose, such as i can move it with my hands, no problem. and it is part of the engine block. could it be missing a screw? and just need to be tightened? or could it be the timing chain? oh and the entire belt system is not turning, running, whatever.

ty

[sonofmayhem]

missin main crankshaft bolt, getting one from aj salvage. great place if your ever in the springs, gonna look in to lawsuit, try to get hard evidence, my mom called the better business bureau. and apparently they already have all different types of complaints on them already.

[YumaBill]

Originally Posted by sonofmayhem

missin main crankshaft bolt, getting one from aj salvage. great place if your ever in the springs, gonna look in to lawsuit, try to get hard evidence, my mom called the better business bureau. and apparently they already have all different types of complaints on them already.

How would a paint job result in the main pully bolt falling off?
Did they do any work on the motor? I cannot see why they would be under the hood unless they resprayed the engine bay