Stering shake

[sifegar]

Hello, every one!!!

Recently I swap tires on my 89 4runner I change 235/75R15 Bfgoodrich AT tires for 31X10.5R15 BFG Mud Terrain and noticed a brief shake in my steering wheel I took the 4rruner to balance the tires but the shake ramains, I was think to change the stabilizer.

Any advice is welcome...


Thankyou!!!

[nofear4189]

could be that, or could might be a front end alignment issue. Over time the stabilizer gets old and worn out, and might be a good bet to try that first.

-Adam

[banshee35]

This was posted in the t100 forum:http://www.gadgetonline.com/Vibration.htm
All a stabilizer does is help dampen other problems you may already have. You could have a bent or out of round rim, bad or mis-adjusted wheel bearings.

[Bakemono]

If you switch to taller, off-road tires you will get more shake. The rubber of mud tires is made of a softer compound, so that it can sort of mold around rocks and other things to get more traction.
I test drove a '99 Tacoma that had a 4" lift and 33" Mud Kings and that thing shook like a mutha.
If you had your tires balanced again then its probably not a balance issue. It might just be the nature of the beast and something that you are going to have to accept. Typically, great off-road tires arent the best tires for driving on pavement.
Cap'n

[Williams]

A word from the wise in the Tire dept: TO THOSE OF US(all of us) WHO KNOW DARN WELL THAT THE JAPS MAKE BETTER CARS THAN NORTH AMERICA, WELL IT SHOULDN'T REALLY BE A SURPRISE THAT THEY MAKE THE BEST TIRES ALSO.

There is more to just going down to Costco and getting a set of big tires for cheap and away you go happily till you wear them out. Not to slam just Costco though.

-When installing bigger tires, they have to be installed on the appropriate width rims. A 31x 10.50 should be on a minimum 7" wide wheel or they crown too much and do not seat up on the wheel properly.
-When shops mount tires and then balance them a good installer will first spin the tire to confirm that the tire/wheel is a nice true unit. Computer tire balancers are very precision and can literally balance anything, but it won't roll very good if it isn't true. A good shop will confirm that it is a nice true unit, and if not, will break the bead back down and spin the tire 180 on the wheel in an attempt to get a nice true unit. Then they will balance it. This is why it is preferable to do your business with a smaller or non wholesale shop. They generally take more care in the installation & balancing. Tires that are installed/balanced and driven away for life that are not nice and true units, well these are the ones that generally need constant rebalancing, etc.

I could go on and on, but the basic idea is to buy good quality Japanese tires for your good quality Japanese vehicle and have them installed by a good shop and you have a lot less potential for problems. Tires are what meet the road, and totally under estimated. People buy the best vehicles, like a German luxury car, then re-tire them with the likes of BFG or some other North American crap and then they don't understand why the ride is shitty.

STICK WITH THE LIKES OF YOKOHAMA, TOYO, KUMHO, AND OTHER JAP BRANDS(reluctently Bridgestone, even though they are Jap they were stupid enough to buy out the dreaded Firestone crap).

BASICALLY THE BFG's WERE THE ONLY PERFORMANCE RADIAL MADE IN THE EARLY 70's FOR YOUR DAD'S CAMARO..... WELL THEY ARE FAR FROM THE BEST THESE DAYS. I INVITE YOU TO TRY A SET OF YOKOHAMA GEOLANDERS(for example) AND SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.....

[Bakemono]

Williams, the use of the word "Jap" is seriously uncool. I like your attitude of Japanese tires on a Japanese vehicle, but please stop using the word "Jap", its very insulting.
Cap'n

[smasheromalley]

I buy Coopers and Cooper knock off tires that are poured in Dayton Ohio and I have never ever been disappointed. Not a single time. All the way from courser M/Ts to the $30 each Mastercraft P185s that are on my truck now.


Your going to have to do your best to describe what type of shake you are talking about before you get any real help.

What speed does it occur? slow only? fast only? turning? all the time? Does it shake the steering wheel? Does it shake the brake pedal?

elaborate a little please

[khonesty]

[QUOTE=Captain_Toyota]the use of the word "Jap" is seriously uncool]/QUOTE]

Relax man, I think it might be a lil faster to type than Japanese. I didn't think it durrougatory (misspelled that one) until you brought it up. My 4runner has always been and always will be my "jap truck" and I still love it more than any gmc and jeep. Not using the term to put my truck down or belittle the ethnic group that put it together, they engineered that little f*^#er better than anybody could have. I just think that you read in a lil too far and maybe you should back up a lil'. You can go find a conspiracy forum somewhere if you want act agitated and mouth back.

[cam2Xrunner]

I could go on and on, but the basic idea is to buy good quality Japanese tires for your good quality Japanese vehicle

Right so a Goodyear that's been XRay'd for defect's at the factory beforehand and Michelins that are known for their near perfect balance are not suitable for my Japanese truck?

Or a Kumho is going to be a better tire for smoothness, trueness, safety, and mileage than a Michelin?

A tire is a tire no matter where it is made. What makes a good tire is the quality control, quality of materials, tread design, etc, etc.

That's not to say Japanese tires are bad, I love Toyo's and Nittos I have had good luck with them. If I were to buy a next set of tires for my truck, they would in fact be Toyo T1-R's

(btw I've also worked in the tire business for a few years)


If you are having problems balancing your wheels on a Toyota truck, the main reason why is most likely because the shop is not using the Haweka adapter that is talked about in the previously posted link from www.gadgetonline.com

[banshee35]

[QUOTE=khonesty]

Originally Posted by Captain_Toyota

the use of the word "Jap" is seriously uncool]/QUOTE]

Relax man, I think it might be a lil faster to type than Japanese. I didn't think it durrougatory (misspelled that one) until you brought it up. My 4runner has always been and always will be my "jap truck" and I still love it more than any gmc and jeep. Not using the term to put my truck down or belittle the ethnic group that put it together, they engineered that little f*^#er better than anybody could have. I just think that you read in a lil too far and maybe you should back up a lil'. You can go find a conspiracy forum somewhere if you want act agitated and mouth back.

Keep your cool pal. We don't need bickering to be happenin 'round here. Next time dont be so lazy when yer typin'!

[khonesty]

Man, whatever, I don't "bicker", I'm telling your "moderater" that he should keep his cool, pal.

[Williams]

chill, that's the best I'd say.....

[Williams]

aRight so a Goodyear that's been XRay'd for defect's at the factory beforehand and Michelins that are known for their near perfect balance are not suitable for my Japanese truck?

Or a Kumho is going to be a better tire for smoothness, trueness, safety, and mileage than a Michelin?



actually, back on the subject of tires.....

yah, Michelins are ok I guess. Even though they are a bit soft on the sidewall I guess they'd be fine/ok for the street cruiser 4x4 pavement crowd. I'm not really a big Kumho fan, but talk to big rig operators and most will tell you to stick with Yokohama, Toyo, Kumho, Bridgestone, and yes Michelin is in there too. And Michelins are known for their perfect balance. What is good about Michelin are their European spec tires that they have made for decades. ie the XVS or XAS was Europes police pursuit tire, and was installed on many BMW, Mercedes, Puegeot, Jaguar type high end cars of the day from the early 60's to the 90's. This tire featured an asymmetrical tread design, and it hangs on let me tell you. Then there was the XWX which was also a very unique tire. The XWX would be found on extreme high end cars like Bentley, Rolls, Jag, Aston Martin, Lotus to name a few. But lets not forget the very popular(although less than Michelin like in it's performance), the XRW also known as the X Red Wall which was only available in a couple of sizes...one being 185x15, and this is the Red Wall tire that were factory options on all Triumph TR6's, plus many Jaguar, Volvo and a few others. Also worth mentioning was the 185x14 Reinforced, a tire that was a designed for the VW van. The famous Michelin X doesn't really need an introduction. The point of what I am getting at is that Michelin has made a trend setting tire for over one hundred years.....it's just that the Jap's have come along and taken over in making a quality world leading product in their tires. And when they are installed on their world class trucks...well that a hard combo to beat. I love my truck , and my Yokohama's , but I must say that my Japanese wife really makes me a content man. Cheers.

[smasheromalley]

LOL, I like my 87 yota but Im not sure theres anything "world class" about it

[khonesty]

Good point.