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"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Pay no attention to "Ed White". He owned one Toyota in the early 80s that
> turned out to be a rare lemon and still thinks that Toyota overall is no
> better than other makers for reliability. He refuses to believe surveys[/color]
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> Consumer Reports, JD Power, etc. because they don't agree with his own
> opinions, claiming they are nothing more than popularity contests. But[/color]
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> he has never presented any solid, unbiased evidence to the contrary other
> than his own limited anecdotal evidence.[/color]

Toyotas are nothing special in the JD Powers rating, yet Toyota owners
constantly cite this as proof of Toyota superiority. You need to actually
read the stuff you are citing. For instance, in the 2005 Initial Quality
Study, Toyotas had 105 problems per 100 vehicles. Buicks only had 100. The
industry average was 118. In the 2005 Vehicle Dependability Study, Toyotas
had 194 problems per 100 vehicles, Bucks only 163. The industry average was
237. If you put so much faith in JD Powers results, you should be buying a
Buick. I put no faith in Consumer Reports rankings. Their methodology is
non-scientific. In recent years they have cleaned up the result to remove
really horrible inconsistencies (like Buicks scoring much better than
Oldsmobiles), however it is still a flawed survey. I just filled out my 2006
CR Survey. The amount of information they collected is insufficient to prove
anything. Given the attitude of most Toyota owners it is not surprising that
they do well in the Consumer Reports popularity survey.

Ed