Pray that toyota never veers away from what has made the tacoma the best truck on the planet.Sure the new tundras are great,so are the escalade trucks,and numerous other trucks,but the one thing we have that they don't have is a truck that hasn't changed asthleticly in ages.Every 4 years or so manufacturers revise their lineups sometimes drasticly which makes the previous line ups much less desirable.If you haven't noticed the tacoma hasn't changed all that much for decades which makes them much more desirable,and older models have higher resale values.Pray toyota keeps with this tradition and never drasticly revises the beloved tacoma.
Pray that toyota never veers away from what has made the tacoma the best truck on the planet.Sure the new tundras are great,so are the escalade trucks,and numerous other trucks,but the one thing we have that they don't have is a truck that hasn't changed asthleticly in ages.Every 4 years or so manufacturers revise their lineups sometimes drasticly which makes the previous line ups much less desirable.If you haven't noticed the tacoma hasn't changed all that much for decades which makes them much more desirable,and older models have higher resale values.Pray toyota keeps with this tradition and never drasticly revises the beloved tacoma.
Yes, it is a superior product. I have to disagree with you on not changing. I think that they have changed (for the good). Look at the current (2005 plus) design. Having driven Toyota trucks since 1984 I fell in love with my '06. I always liked my trucks but this one a truely enjoy driving.
I think that if we look back at the Chevy S-10 we would see a style/model that wasn't altered/changed over many years. It was hard as hell to tell models that were 10 years apart. I feel that Chevy played that into the ground.
I do think that by not changing designs for about 4 years is a great idea. We know that this is done to save $$$$ in retooling the manufacturing plants. For the buyer it is good because I feel that it helps retain resale.
Just my .02.
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I dont think the styling has anything to do with the resale value of the truck. Granted, if it looks like shit, it won't sell. But c'mon, you guys missed the point. These trucks have high resale values because of their heritage. The Tacoma is known for its dependability and reliability. Everyone who owns a Toyota knows you can drive these things nearly forever. Remember the 22re, that motor could easily handle 200k+ with proper maintainence. The transmissions and transfercases are nearly bulletproof to boot. And that is what makes the truck so valuable. This will help make it easy to understand. If something is desirable, it is more pricey. AAAHHHH simple supply and demand
Mike
I dont think the styling has anything to do with the resale value of the truck. Granted, if it looks like shit, it won't sell. But c'mon, you guys missed the point. These trucks have high resale values because of their heritage. The Tacoma is known for its dependability and reliability. Everyone who owns a Toyota knows you can drive these things nearly forever. Remember the 22re, that motor could easily handle 200k+ with proper maintainence. The transmissions and transfercases are nearly bulletproof to boot. And that is what makes the truck so valuable. This will help make it easy to understand. If something is desirable, it is more pricey. AAAHHHH simple supply and demand
Mike
Agreed!! I have a couple of friends that have a Toyota truck with well over 200K and both swear they will never sell those trucks even though they just use them to haul shit in or take trash to the dump.
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Yes, it is a superior product. I have to disagree with you on not changing. I think that they have changed (for the good). Look at the current (2005 plus) design. Having driven Toyota trucks since 1984 I fell in love with my '06. I always liked my trucks but this one a truely enjoy driving.
I think that if we look back at the Chevy S-10 we would see a style/model that wasn't altered/changed over many years. It was hard as hell to tell models that were 10 years apart. I feel that Chevy played that into the ground.
I do think that by not changing designs for about 4 years is a great idea. We know that this is done to save $$$$ in retooling the manufacturing plants. For the buyer it is good because I feel that it helps retain resale.
Just my .02.
The quality is great,if not the best but do you think they have changed drasticly over the years?Look at harley davidson motorcycles.For years there never was a drastic change in design till the v-rod,and they have a resale value equal to land.I love my 07 d/c and never bought a previous model because they just weren't that pleasing to the eye to me,but since I 've owned one everytime I pass up an older model I can see alot of similarities .
IMHO - Toyota is falling into the 'increase the profit margin by any means necessary' state of mind which means they're dropping down to all the other guy's level. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's a great product compared to everyone else out there. But the gap between them and brand X is closing rather quickly. In the not so distant past, they stood behind their product 110% + you rarely had material or craftsman defects. Now you have to fight them to get them to fix stuff that never should have broken to begin with. For example. Tailgate TSB. They made the tailgate too weak for the average sized person to stand on the tailgate. People complained enough that they came out with a reinforcement fix, but they wouldn't fix it until you broke it. Another example of today. Failing locking rear ends. Their response most of the time is 'you took it off-road therefore you abused it'. Hello! This is being sold as an off road vehicle, with an off road package. They had advertisements on tv, in magazines and even their own sales brochure showing the truck being used off road. Why shouldn't the consumer be able to take it off road? Why? Because it costs the company money to fix it. I miss the days when a head gasket was replaced for free (even if there weren't any signs of a current failure) and a loaner vehicle was offered. No matter how many miles the truck had it, no matter how many different owners have owned it or how dirty it was.
The quality is great,if not the best but do you think they have changed drasticly over the years?Look at harley davidson motorcycles.For years there never was a drastic change in design till the v-rod,and they have a resale value equal to land.I love my 07 d/c and never bought a previous model because they just weren't that pleasing to the eye to me,but since I 've owned one everytime I pass up an older model I can see alot of similarities .
Absolutely they've changed. Compare it to other trucks like the F-150, Ranger, or Silverado. It's changed as much as, if not more, than they have. There SHOULD be similarities to previous years otherwise why keep the name going? Just come up with a new name every year.
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I agree, a lot is in the name, and the past. I bought a toyota tacoma because it was a toyota tacoma. My father has a previous generation tacoma, much of the reason I bought mine was because of his. It is almost 10 years old, and it's still running good, a few problems here and there, but few is the key word there. I also say this is the best looking redesign yet.
Pray that toyota never veers away from what has made the tacoma the best truck on the planet.Sure the new tundras are great,so are the escalade trucks,and numerous other trucks,but the one thing we have that they don't have is a truck that hasn't changed asthleticly in ages.Every 4 years or so manufacturers revise their lineups sometimes drasticly which makes the previous line ups much less desirable.If you haven't noticed the tacoma hasn't changed all that much for decades which makes them much more desirable,and older models have higher resale values.Pray toyota keeps with this tradition and never drasticly revises the beloved tacoma.
I don't think your statement bears any truth true at all . For one, the new generation Tacoma has morphed into a mid size truck. Look at the 1980's even 1990's version compared to today's Tacoma, a longbed doublecab is almost the same length as a new Avalanche. Second the design of the new truck is a very modern look compared to the competitors model as well as previous generations. The simple reason to why Tacoma's have a high resale value is one, the Tacoma is not a mass produced vehicle as say the F-150. Ford produces over 1 million F-150's a year, I would bet to say Toyota maybe produces 350K Tacoma's a year. Limited number plus higher demand means higher resale value. Simple supply and demand. As mentioned before, the Tacoma has developed a reputation as an good looking dependable long lasting truck. Reputation is one of the main driving facotrs for vehicle sales. Why is Ford, Chrysler, and GM suffering today? Bad reputation drives customres away. Second Toyota doesn't offer ridiculous rebates on new models dropping the price on the used models on the road. If your statement bore any truth then the Chevy Silverado, and Ford Ranger would have the highest resale value as all both trucks have changed very little over the past 20 years, and both have horrible resale value. I kind of see what you are trying to say, but you miss the mark altogether on why the Tacoma or any vehicle retain their value.
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I don't think your statement bears any truth true at all . For one, the new generation Tacoma has morphed into a mid size truck. Look at the 1980's even 1990's version compared to today's Tacoma, a longbed doublecab is almost the same length as a new Avalanche. Second the design of the new truck is a very modern look compared to the competitors model as well as previous generations. The simple reason to why Tacoma's have a high resale value is one, the Tacoma is not a mass produced vehicle as say the F-150. Ford produces over 1 million F-150's a year, I would bet to say Toyota maybe produces 350K Tacoma's a year. Limited number plus higher demand means higher resale value. Simple supply and demand. As mentioned before, the Tacoma has developed a reputation as an good looking dependable long lasting truck. Reputation is one of the main driving facotrs for vehicle sales. Why is Ford, Chrysler, and GM suffering today? Bad reputation drives customres away. Second Toyota doesn't offer ridiculous rebates on new models dropping the price on the used models on the road. If your statement bore any truth then the Chevy Silverado, and Ford Ranger would have the highest resale value as all both trucks have changed very little over the past 20 years, and both have horrible resale value. I kind of see what you are trying to say, but you miss the mark altogether on why the Tacoma or any vehicle retain their value.
OK Try this one.Tacomas are light and look great all jacked-up.There,that better?
OK Try this one.Tacomas are light and look great all jacked-up.There,that better?
That might be why you decided to buy a Tacoma, but I'm sure other people bought for the Toyota name and dependability....hence the reason our trucks have a high resale value; contrary to your reason originally posted.
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That might be why you decided to buy a Tacoma, but I'm sure other people bought for the Toyota name and dependability....hence the reason our trucks have a high resale value; contrary to your reason originally posted.
Try in addition too,instead of contrary to.To alot of people the tacoma has upheld its heratige in looks and function.
Try in addition too,instead of contrary to.To alot of people the tacoma has upheld its heratige in looks and function.
Then I ask, how come the Ford Ranger and the F-150 doesn't hold their value aside from being the best selling trucks. Remeber the Ranger was the #1 selling compact truck for 10 yerars before 2005-2006. Both truck remained true to their heritage?
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We are getting off topic, but seriously, Toyota's marketing managers realize that most Americans keep vehicles for only a certain number of years. That is why they change body styles every 4 years or so. The original Toyota trucks barely changed among the years.
See the problem with Ford is that their products are getting away from what their consumers want. Despite their huge fanbase and the tremendous amount of loyalty that Americans feel to Ford, their 4.0V6 makes less power and gets worse fuel economy than their Toyota competitor. Makes it tough to sell. That, and most important, the truck is using outdated technology. Most small pickups utilize double wishbone suspension and a 6spd manual, Ford uses neither. Ford also doesn't have a single rail system for the bed of their truck. People buying small trucks want a compromise of economy and usability.
As for used vehicle pricing, these lacks in development are shown in Ford prices as compared to Toyotas. Toyota has built a harmark on reliability and innovation. Those are two very influencial salespoints for any item, especially a pickup truck.
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Granted, if it looks like shit, it won't sell. But c'mon, you guys missed the point. These trucks have high resale values because of their heritage. The Tacoma is known for its dependability and reliability. Everyone who owns a Toyota knows you can drive these things nearly forever. Remember the 22re, that motor could easily handle 200k+ with proper maintainence. The transmissions and transfercases are nearly bulletproof to boot. And that is what makes the truck so valuable. This will help make it easy to understand. If something is desirable, it is more pricey. AAAHHHH simple supply and demand
. For one, the new generation Tacoma has morphed into a mid size truck. Look at the 1980's even 1990's version compared to today's Tacoma, a longbed doublecab is almost the same length as a new Avalanche. Second the design of the new truck is a very modern look compared to the competitors model as well as previous generations. The simple reason to why Tacoma's have a high resale value is one, the Tacoma is not a mass produced vehicle as say the F-150. Ford produces over 1 million F-150's a year, I would bet to say Toyota maybe produces 350K Tacoma's a year. Limited number plus higher demand means higher resale value. Simple supply and demand. As mentioned before, the Tacoma has developed a reputation as an good looking dependable long lasting truck. Reputation is one of the main driving facotrs for vehicle sales. Why is Ford, Chrysler, and GM suffering today? Bad reputation drives customres away. Second Toyota doesn't offer ridiculous rebates on new models dropping the price on the used models on the road. If your statement bore any truth then the Chevy Silverado, and Ford Ranger would have the highest resale value as all both trucks have changed very little over the past 20 years, and both have horrible resale value. I kind of see what you are trying to say, but you miss the mark altogether on why the Tacoma or any vehicle retain their value. 
People buying small trucks want a compromise of economy and usability. 
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