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Old 05-20-2008, 07:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Water for Gas???? Hmmm

http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm

Will this work on our trucks?
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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omfg i can't believe people are allowed to sell garbage like that and claim it as true. It's nothing more then a bottle of water that an electric current is sent through, creating hydrogen gas... not that HHO BS! because hydrogen is lighter then air it'll float to the top and apparently go to your engine. TOTAL SCAM!

So no it won't work our trucks because it won't work for any vehicle.
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Old 05-20-2008, 08:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sure some liberal tree hugger will complain that we are depleting the earth's water supply or some garbage like that with this idea.---and if it was that easy to do, this idea would have hit the mainstream media long ago.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hydrogen may very well fuel cars in the future but the tech isn't here yet. That's just nonsense in that link.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hmm is tacogrande running something like this guys?
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Buy it, try it and let us know what happens.

BTW - any damage that occurs, probably not covered under warranty
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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eh a little cynical?

Self contained oxy-hydrogen units/PRO or CON?

Like I said I know I read Tacogrande is running one.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This thread got me to researching this whole HHO generator thing, and I built one. It draws about 10 amps and puts out around 1 liter a minute when it's warmed up. It cost a whopping $1.79 to build, I used an old coleman air pump (you know, the kind you use for blow up dolls) and some 1/2" SS tubing I had laying around. I gutted the pump and arranged the tubing around the center tube that attaches to the pump handle, the only thing I spent money on was the BBQ skewers I used as anodes. Works pretty slick, so far all I have done is blow up a couple pop bottles, but I'm going to run the HHO into the filter in my volant airbox and see what happens. I can watch my fuel trims on my laptop and the A/F ratio on my wideband, so no worries about blowing the motor up. Besides, all I'm doing is adding more fuel. The worst that will happen is it will run rich. HHO is 3 times more powerful than gas, so my one liter a minute is equal to 3 L of gas a minute. Probably barely enough to idle the thirsty 4.0, but we'll see. I'll take some pics when I get it under the hood, right now it's just an air pump with wires coming out the top.
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Why is this thread not locked yet? Where are the mods?

But wait: I just put the waterhose into my tank today and it's increadible! HP gain? about 100%.

The next mod around? Close this thread!
See you may not think I'm watching; but I am!

Why should this be closed?
If you don't like the exchange of ideas? Don't read it! Simple.
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I far from said that, but I do believe he is running it along side of gas. I can't say that I know offhand if it will provide any benefits... just saying its not a complete lie.

I mean the technology is there, electricity and water to hydrogen, and hydrogen combusts, but the small amounts and the computer may make it negligble from what I've read.

However, I really have no experience so I'll leave it up to someone who does...

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Anyone can make hydrogen, it just takes way to long. The technology is there but the stupid thing is that we currently make hydrogen from petrol. You should look up the 200mpg toyota prius hybid. I think what they did is make it a plug in also so at night you can charge the batteries with your wall socket. http://www.edrivesystems.com/faq.html

One thing i don't know is why don't they make the roof's of electric cars solar panels, that way the sun can trickle charge the battery. I think tacograde is running methane.
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think tacograde is running methane.
No, I'm running HHO, brown's gas, hydroxy or whatever you want to call it. It's pretty explosive shit and not something you should fuck with if you're retarded. I'm not the only one running it on an 05+. Watch all of this guys videos and do some reading, this is the answer. Many people poo-poo on the idea of brute force electrolysis production of Hydrogen on demand saying that it's not "over unity". Well no shit sherlock, but electricity is free with solar/wind, so it is essentially "free". I'm currently playing with a triple battery setup, but I'm in the middle of an international move so the "lab" is kind of tied up. I'll continue with it when I get to Socal, and maybe when I get everything up and running move on to solar panels somewhere. I might get a motorcycle to play with too, dunno yet. Oh yeah, here's the link to ZFF's setup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iguObxQOjD4
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omfg i can't believe people are allowed to sell garbage like that and claim it as true. It's nothing more then a bottle of water that an electric current is sent through, creating hydrogen gas... not that HHO BS! because hydrogen is lighter then air it'll float to the top and apparently go to your engine. TOTAL SCAM!

So no it won't work our trucks because it won't work for any vehicle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWKG4oM1k_A

Fine, keep getting shitty mileage and stay in your little box. Although, I must admit the water4gas setup is mostly a scam based on a little slice of fact. Do some research, it's real. Try it your self. Take a teaspoon of baking soda to a liter of water, hook up jumper cables to a battery and drop them in the water (make sure they don't touch). The Hydrogen bubbles are the tiny ones that float off the positive side, and the oxygen bubbles come off the negative side. Anode and Cathode for you nerds out there. The bubbles will accumulate on the surface of the water. Wait for one about the size of a quarter to build, then light it. I bet it makes you ears ring!
PS, there is a LOT of garbage information out there. If they are trying to sell you something, run. Lots of shitty people are trying to scam people on this thing because it's so easy to build and so "amazing". 3rd graders love the demo's. OOh look, water go boom. So sift through the garbage. There has already been V-8's ran off this stuff, but keep in mind it's being ran in an engine that was not designed to run on it. Also it's labor intensive. You can't just set it and forget it, you have to check on it all the time, play with the system, it eats batteries (use optima's) if you don't control the amps it will runaway on you creating a potentially dangerous situation. It's not production friendly in today's sue happy world, but for guys that like to tinker... This engine dyno'd at an astounding 200hp on water. Pretty good methinks.

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SHIT, i already new how to make it, but dang ears ringing thats sounds like some crazy stuff.
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I'm sure some liberal tree hugger will complain that we are depleting the earth's water supply or some garbage like that with this idea.---and if it was that easy to do, this idea would have hit the mainstream media long ago.
It did, then the guy got whacked shortly after it aired. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIgOn1kRw5s

also the coolest thing about hho is that when it burns the ONLY byproduct is water. Pure drinking water runs out the tailpipe. Plus it's really efficient. 1 gallon of water contains thousands of gallons of HHO (it's hard to measure, depends on PH balance, barometric pressure and other factors)

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