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Old 06-04-2008, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When I first started monitoring this forum, there was a lot of info and downloads that were a lot of help to first time Tacoma owners. All the maintenance issues were discussed in depth and some very knowledgeable members such as PB would provide a voice of reason to the issues. My 2007 access cab TRD Offroad has limited modifications to enhance its utility as a hunting and fishing truck, but will never be lifted, lowered, supercharged, or fitted with aftermarket intake or exhaust. I think the stock aluminum wheels are just great and the 265/70/16 tires are plenty of tire for a truck of this size.

It appears lately this forum has become a place for the hairy chested gonzo mod squad guys to brag about how high they can lift it or how much tire they can get under it and then how do they deal with the problems that result from their mods. I'm not saying that these mods don't have a place on this forum, but be gentle with the newby who comes on this forum seeking info that has been covered in past threads and doesn't even know enough to ask a coherent question. I believe we need to take a look at the direction this forum is going and see if it is where we really want to go.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree... I'm new here (although not new to forums and I'm very mechanically inclined)

I just registered on this forum for diversity but find myself not wanting to post much because of what you have mentioned above.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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When I first started monitoring this forum, there was a lot of info and downloads that were a lot of help to first time Tacoma owners. All the maintenance issues were discussed in depth and some very knowledgeable members such as PB would provide a voice of reason to the issues. My 2007 access cab TRD Offroad has limited modifications to enhance its utility as a hunting and fishing truck, but will never be lifted, lowered, supercharged, or fitted with aftermarket intake or exhaust. I think the stock aluminum wheels are just great and the 265/70/16 tires are plenty of tire for a truck of this size.

It appears lately this forum has become a place for the hairy chested gonzo mod squad guys to brag about how high they can lift it or how much tire they can get under it and then how do they deal with the problems that result from their mods. I'm not saying that these mods don't have a place on this forum, but be gentle with the newby who comes on this forum seeking info that has been covered in past threads and doesn't even know enough to ask a coherent question. I believe we need to take a look at the direction this forum is going and see if it is where we really want to go.
I agree, I have definitely seen a change in direction on this forum in the last six months, I know if I were a newbie I would be afraid to ask a question for fear of being barbequed! I think some have just forgotten that they were newbies once too!
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I personally believe there is room for both kinds: stockers and modders.

I've come on here and asked newbie questions before and have gotten fantastic answers. I think the key to any forum (and I am a member of a ton of them) is to do at least a quick search and then to ask a coherent question.

I don't think newbie questions are flamed unless the newbie didn't bother to read anything and asked the same question in the same illiterate fashion:

"hey just bought my new tacoma need a 3" lift any suggestions"

Notice the lack of punctuation along with the question that has been covered ad nauseum. That kind of question will get ya torn apart on ANY forum.

On a forum as popular as TN, newbie mistakes like this make future searches much more difficult.

Another hint for newbies: Use a good subject line for your question. "Please help!" is not a good subject line, nor is "mpg." Be specific yet concise to the problem and it will always get a better answer.

In short, appear to give a damn and the rest of us will do the same.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:57 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I can see where youre coming from, however I believe it is something inevitable...... as time goes on and more and more ppl are weathered on this site they all begin to see redundant info. As you said, this does not mean that the ?'s should not be asked and should be grilled about it. (there was a thread VERY similar to this a little while back).

Its unfortunate however Its just one of those things that will happen. There are a lot of members on this board and it is impossible to change everyone and the way they would like to handle redundant posts. I have seen this forum change and have seen newbs beaten down but since mods have been active in helping eliminate this I have seen it calm down as well. It is still the best forum i have ever been registered with and I personally will continue topost and be an active user regardless.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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um..anyone visited ttora lately?
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I personally believe there is room for both kinds: stockers and modders.

I've come on here and asked newbie questions before and have gotten fantastic answers. I think the key to any forum (and I am a member of a ton of them) is to do at least a quick search and then to ask a coherent question.

I don't think newbie questions are flamed unless the newbie didn't bother to read anything and asked the same question in the same illiterate fashion:

"hey just bought my new tacoma need a 3" lift any suggestions"

Notice the lack of punctuation along with the question that has been covered ad nauseum. That kind of question will get ya torn apart on ANY forum.

On a forum as popular as TN, newbie mistakes like this make future searches much more difficult.

Another hint for newbies: Use a good subject line for your question. "Please help!" is not a good subject line, nor is "mpg." Be specific yet concise to the problem and it will always get a better answer.

In short, appear to give a damn and the rest of us will do the same.


Very Very Very good.


and to reinforce what 6shooter said, if you think you have it bad on TN you noobs, go hang over on TTORA for a while.


And if you think TTORA is bad, then go hang over on Pirate for a while
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um..anyone visited ttora lately?
Agreed!!!

They will pig roast you from all sides if you F up as a newby. If you do choose to post there you better have info backing up any statement that you make.

I personally think this forum is a little on the tame side, very little discussion about new mods or possible additions. Even just thoughts or new ideas seem hard to come by. Every new thread is named "Wheels I need advice" or "UCA with 5100s?" something that can easily be searched and found.

Also you have to love when somebody post a question on wheel fitament the first line is always "I tried to search" but it should be "I typed "tires" into the search button but was too lazy to actually look thru any of the results. So now I want you guys the "experts" to help me because I am to feeble to do it myself."

Last night there was a thread by jesse1983 which was absolutely fantastic, he offered up a great suggestion to those who need to pass yearly inspections. With instructions and pictures for those who may have needed it. For that he got his nutz torched by some who said it was ugly or he was stupid or why doesn't he go spend a thousand buck for new fenders. I actually think its a good idea and might use it on the trail to stop rocks, mud, and twigs from flying up.

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When I first started monitoring this forum, there was a lot of info and downloads that were a lot of help to first time Tacoma owners. All the maintenance issues were discussed in depth and some very knowledgeable members such as PB would provide a voice of reason to the issues. My 2007 access cab TRD Offroad has limited modifications to enhance its utility as a hunting and fishing truck, but will never be lifted, lowered, supercharged, or fitted with aftermarket intake or exhaust. I think the stock aluminum wheels are just great and the 265/70/16 tires are plenty of tire for a truck of this size.

It appears lately this forum has become a place for the hairy chested gonzo mod squad guys to brag about how high they can lift it or how much tire they can get under it and then how do they deal with the problems that result from their mods. I'm not saying that these mods don't have a place on this forum, but be gentle with the newby who comes on this forum seeking info that has been covered in past threads and doesn't even know enough to ask a coherent question. I believe we need to take a look at the direction this forum is going and see if it is where we really want to go.
What does my hairy chest have to do with anything?

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I personally believe there is room for both kinds: stockers and modders.

I've come on here and asked newbie questions before and have gotten fantastic answers. I think the key to any forum (and I am a member of a ton of them) is to do at least a quick search and then to ask a coherent question.

I don't think newbie questions are flamed unless the newbie didn't bother to read anything and asked the same question in the same illiterate fashion:

"hey just bought my new tacoma need a 3" lift any suggestions"

Notice the lack of punctuation along with the question that has been covered ad nauseum. That kind of question will get ya torn apart on ANY forum.

On a forum as popular as TN, newbie mistakes like this make future searches much more difficult.

Another hint for newbies: Use a good subject line for your question. "Please help!" is not a good subject line, nor is "mpg." Be specific yet concise to the problem and it will always get a better answer.

In short, appear to give a damn and the rest of us will do the same.
Amen my brother.

On a side note, when your a newb, use correct English in your posts. If I have to pretend I'm a CSI decipher what language you are speaking and what you are trying to say, chances are I am going to be a little less helpful than I normally am.

Another thing, if you get someone mocks you on a forum, why do you get so angry? Its the internet, don't take it so seriously. 90% of the things said on here that are being called flaming are really just sarcastic remarks and don't really contain any malice.Another thing, if you get someone mocks you on a forum, why do you get so angry? Its the internet, don't take it so seriously. 90% of the things said on here that are being called flaming are really just sarcastic remarks and don't really contain any malice.

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and to reinforce what 6shooter said, if you think you have it bad on TN you noobs, go hang over on TTORA for a while.


And if you think TTORA is bad, then go hang over on Pirate for a while
LOL yeah.

I also just want to take this opportunity to post this, because I can't stop laughing at it.

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Old 06-04-2008, 11:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I personally believe there is room for both kinds: stockers and modders.

I've come on here and asked newbie questions before and have gotten fantastic answers. I think the key to any forum (and I am a member of a ton of them) is to do at least a quick search and then to ask a coherent question.

I don't think newbie questions are flamed unless the newbie didn't bother to read anything and asked the same question in the same illiterate fashion:

"hey just bought my new tacoma need a 3" lift any suggestions"

Notice the lack of punctuation along with the question that has been covered ad nauseum. That kind of question will get ya torn apart on ANY forum.

On a forum as popular as TN, newbie mistakes like this make future searches much more difficult.

Another hint for newbies: Use a good subject line for your question. "Please help!" is not a good subject line, nor is "mpg." Be specific yet concise to the problem and it will always get a better answer.

In short, appear to give a damn and the rest of us will do the same.
I do agree with this as well.

It is getting increasingly difficult to find anything of worth due to the myriad of threads that contain question like the above. If you are a newbie and have a question look to use PM's also. I know I have PM'ed several individuals question about a specific lift set up or a question I have that I know they have had experience with....No every question justifies starting a new thread.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Generally and I do say generally. If you search for specific info in the title only you will find what you're looking for
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haha I saw that on a Lexus forum, great stuff. I say let newbs do whatever they want. If they f up, they leave. If they are cool, they stay and contribute. Let the flaming do its job, because it always does.
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