Tacoma Diesel (North America)

[williamgarner]

I am sure this has been previously discussed. I missed it! I can't find it! Any talk of Toyota releasing a Tacoma diesel pickup in the United States?

[08impulseredtacoma]

hah man let me tell you what. the day Toyota releases a diesel tacoma will be the day i go into major debt. ive always wished they would come out with it! perfect size truck with a little more pep in its step...!

[williamgarner]

I will be right behind in debt. They had a Diesel in the 80's. But G M turned out some bad diesels and that soured the whole market.

[Chazmanian]

The Diesel engine in the Hilux isnt gonna work out for our market. I dont think it can meet the clean air standards.http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006..._introduc.html

Toyota officials argue that as emissions standards grow more stringent and the spread between the price of diesel fuel and gasoline grows wider, diesels begin to make less and less sense – that the diminishing return delivered by even the cleanest diesels will eventually and perhaps even quite soon, make them a losing proposition in the marketplace.http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/WBdriving

The UK is getting the..."Invincible"!!http://crazycardriver.blogspot.com/

It would be sweet though...But they would essentially have to utilize new technology akin to Blue-Tec in the daimler/Chrysler engines or some type of DPF system.

Probably wont happen anytime soon as tacoma essntially owns the segment already. If it aint broke dont fix it?

The Tundra on the other hand has a good shot at Diesel power in the near future. It dosent own its segment and lots of guys/Gals buy the Diesel offerings from the big 3. Toyota strikes me as a company thats not gonna let that market share elude them for long.

Fuel prices high or low there is still a huge market of folks that spend huge dollars on 3/4 and 1 ton diesel trucks.

I know...I'm one of em'!

[08impulseredtacoma]

all i know is, if i could afford the upkeep on a diesel i would have one. please dont flame me!!! but i almost bought a dodge 5.9 dually! only two things that stopped me. 1 - i knew my taco would last just as long if not longer, and 2 - resale resale resale!!
sorry a lil A.D.D. there but back to the point. i think Toyota could come up with an efficient, clean, low smog Tacoma. they've established that with the concept Tundra, a thing of BEAUTYYYY. but at least i wish they could come up with a limited edition diesel Tacoma, maybe only 2,000 produced? i would be at the top of the list!!!

[2 tacomas]

When I was in Antigua this past May they have both Tacoma's and Hilux's there. All the Hilux's had turbo diesels in them:

[08impulseredtacoma]

Originally Posted by 2 tacomas

When I was in Antigua this past May they have both Tacoma's and Hilux's there. All the Hilux's had turbo diesels in them:

stop teasing me!!!! thats like playing keepaway with a sucker in front of a kid! lol. now i tell you what though. if the developers could maybe come up with an inline 6 like cummins, hmmm MPG?!?!?!?!!?!!?!

[Chazmanian]

The Invincible 200 is a limited edition extra more powerful Hilux Tubo Diesel.

Whilst the exterior styling is a bit creepy and not my thing...The heated leaher seats and manly 4WD lever are definately cool. Not to mention a Diesel that gets 30+ MPG has big torque and is just plain badass.

[08impulseredtacoma]

hmm... maybe one day when i got some extra money, im going to IMPORT!!! and im sure theres gonna be some kind of thing to do for a RHD vehicle.. imagine going to the mcdonalds drive through in that mofo!

[Chazmanian]

Originally Posted by 08impulseredtacoma

all i know is, if i could afford the upkeep on a diesel i would have one. please dont flame me!!! but i almost bought a dodge 5.9 dually! only two things that stopped me. 1 - i knew my taco would last just as long if not longer, and 2 - resale resale resale!!
sorry a lil A.D.D. there but back to the point. i think Toyota could come up with an efficient, clean, low smog Tacoma. they've established that with the concept Tundra, a thing of BEAUTYYYY. but at least i wish they could come up with a limited edition diesel Tacoma, maybe only 2,000 produced? i would be at the top of the list!!!

The resale of the Tacoma is a big plus.

BUt I'll agree to disagree that the upkeep of a 5.9L Cummins Ram is anything extreme. If anything the upkeep is fairly cheap. My 06' has an oil change interval of 15K. It has a serviceable engine life of 250,000-300,000 miles.

If the tranny isnt abused it will hang in there for a good 180K.

The ball joints are a weak link and need to be replaced in the 4x4 models about every 80K. If you get the good ones that are greasable they will go much longer.

UP and down the hwy's and byways of America all day every day there are high mileage Cummins powered Dodges pulling cars to and from auctions, Pulling heavy equipment, Granpa's 5th wheel. Jimmys Quads, or just plain lifted and chipped and making trouble.

I love the resale and the perception of longevity with the Tacoma. Thats why I bought one....Another one!

But I do not expect to be driving around my Tacoma with 200K+ miles. Whilst I fully expect to work my Ram to about 220K before selling it off and getting another. Its a tool. Tacoma is a car.

My Ram has 60K hard trailer towing, digging through snow, bouncing up and down dirt roads miles. Its always running and leads a hard life.

I havent spent a single dime on a failed component. Not one thin dime. And chipped with an aftermarket exhuast and putting out 400 HP and 800Ft #'s of earth rotating torque it gets better mileage on the hwy than my tacoma.

[williamgarner]

Toyota should wake up. With profits down 74% this might be just the pick me up they need.
I know if I could buy a diesel my kids" inheritence would be setting in my driveway and not theirs!!

[xr-eddie]

They will bring one in reluctantly. In South America they have the tacoma just like ours left hand drive and DIESEL. They already have it out. But the politicians and the BIG 3, don't want us to have a diesel. But Nissan is already schedualing a Diesel for its Titan but I believe it will be a small version of the cummins, DONT QUOTE ME... Imagine if the Tundra came with a 5.7L Diesel it would completely KILL the american truck market. The Japs are doing it just like many yrs ago with the Horsepower Cap on there cars. If many people didnt know asian market car had a maximum horsepower limit on imported vehicles.. IE ( Skyline INline-6 Turbo), (Nissan Patrol small SUV with 2JZ Turbo Supra motor, as fast as most sportscar freakin scary fast. WHy u ask. SO american cars still would have an advantage in one criteria.

[xr-eddie]

I think its crap.
TOYOTA + DIESEL + 4X4 = LIfe Long Love Affare

[WilsonTheDog]

Originally Posted by williamgarner

Toyota should wake up. With profits down 74% this might be just the pick me up they need.
I know if I could buy a diesel my kids" inheritence would be setting in my driveway and not theirs!!

Where do you get 74%? Try 34%, not to mention EVERY manufacturer is down, the domestics more so than imports.

I'd buy a diesel Tacoma. I've been saying it since before I bought my current truck.

[williamgarner]

The 74% I got right of the Yahoo page on my computer. I live 4.5 miles from the new Toyota plant in Blue Springs Ms. which is under construction right now. They were going to build the Highlander here but when gas went crazy they changed to the Previs. The plant was going to open in 2010. Now that gas has come down they have killed the car market again. Talk now is that the plant will not open until 2011, 2012 or even 2013. The 74% was profit, not sales. That is the way I read it.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toy...s-plummet-736/ Here is the link to the story. Found it on Yahoo. Jusy typed in Toyota profits.