i am about to buy a 1987 toyota ae86 SR5 coupe. it's a 5spd. has the stock 4ac engine and numerous suspension upgrades like floorbar and stuff like that. costs about $3500. has 150k miles. i've seen it and its great, awsome condition, guy really knows his stuff and took really good care of it. he has 3 hachis because he loves them so much.
anyways, i cant make up my mind wether i want to keep the engine and upgrade it or just get another engine. the problem with keeping the stock engine is that performance parts are kind of rare for the 4ac engine. everything i find seems to be for the gts, its so damn annoying. there is the paradise racing power pack that would be pretty cool. costs about $700 and adds 40hp. it has a weber 32/36 carb kit, schneider cam and dual valve springs. after that, paradise can also port and polish my cylinder head for $800. then im sure i could find some headers on ebay (although that is harder than it seems cuz of those damn GTS's) and some performance exhaust system although i may just go custom on that. custom would be pretty expensive so i don't know. with all of those mods im not exactly sure how much hp im looking at. im guessing about 130 or 140.
or, i could do an engine swap and im trying to find some of the easiest engine swaps out there. i don't really care if its N/A or forced induction just as long as its reliable and has good power. unfortunantly im also restricted by money. i can make up some of the cost by doing the swap myself which is why i want an "easy" engine swap. i have heard of putting the latest version of nissan ca18det engines in there. its supposed to be very popular in japan but i don't know how easy it is. also some people put SR20s in there but i dont like those engines and i will never own one. there are always some of the various toyota A engines like the 4AG, 4AGE, and 4AGZE engines. i don't know how easy those are to drop in. again, im looking for an easy engine to drop in that makes good power. i'd rather the new engine be fuel injected and not carbed and an inline 4 cylinder. i want to keep the good balance of the car and i am looking for to break about 200 hp. 250hp would make be great and that is my goal although it will take me a long time to get there.
sorry for the long post, hope you didn't lose too much interest
Id go with the 4age or the 4agze... drops right in... as for the wiring thats another matter to be dealt with.... if you dont know how to do it yourself i suggest to find someone to do it for you... besically since you want a fuel injected engine you have no choice but to wire it all in.... though 200-250 hp is alot to expect from a 1.6 it is possible, for that kind of power go with the 4agze... stronger crank, rods etc... it is possible to run that kind of power but be prepared to dump some cash into it... im planning the same swap for my SR5 i want the 4agze in it but im gunna run it stock and upgrade to a front mount intercooler and figure itll run at least 170hp (should)... but is all in you man... personally i wouldnt put any Nissan engines in it because you want an "easy" swap... for that there is enough fabricating involved... basically what it comes down to is your ultimate goal and what you want to acheivewith this car.
if you're looking to break about 200hp on a 4AGE or 4AGZE it won't be easy. My suggestion would be to forget about that swap and do a 3SGTE swap instead (from MR2 Turbo and Celica ALLTRAC) its not a drop in swap so it will be a lot of work to get it in the car.
You obviously haven't thought this through properly as you will have to upgrade a LOT of stuff on your car if you want to do a swap, specifically suspension since the OEM SR5 suspension wasn't made for higher horsepower, and of course your fuel system, you may have to upgrade the fuel pump and most likely the fuel lines.
I suggest you read around and do a lot of searching to see what others with SR5s have done to their cars, there's quite a few websites that specialize in these cars and will have more info for you.
wouldnt be hard to hit his power goals with a gze. drop the s/c, get the bigport intake manifold, get a t28 or something, soem kidn of management with a tune and your good.
dont do the 4ac build up, its not worth it, and you wont see 130-140 hp (and if you do it wont be worth the money youll spend). remember these are old engines, they arent pushing the factory hp anymore (which wasnt that much to begin with). 3sgte would be cool. 3sge beams would be cool to (6spd ). dont forget honda f20c's as an option to, its been done a coupel times.
this site rocks first one I have found that has helped at all. I have an 87 SR5 and I am starting over from new engine, new axles, suspension the works. Knowing that is the 3sgte the best way to go or is there something else out there that is not going to kill me and my friends putting it in. And with building everything else up around it what kind of HP am I looking at?
Well why I know you guys hate new people making new threads about "what engine will fit", I will do it in here
I just wrecked my 1996 Corolla with the 4afe motor. I was wondering since I heard that any 4a family will mate up to the others trannys if it would fit in my 1986 Corolla sr5(automatic 3 speed with overdrive). And I was wondering what the hell I would have to do to get the tranny to actually work with it, since it is an automatic or should I start looking for a 5 speed?
Well why I know you guys hate new people making new threads about "what engine will fit", I will do it in here
I just wrecked my 1996 Corolla with the 4afe motor. I was wondering since I heard that any 4a family will mate up to the others trannys if it would fit in my 1986 Corolla sr5(automatic 3 speed with overdrive). And I was wondering what the hell I would have to do to get the tranny to actually work with it, since it is an automatic or should I start looking for a 5 speed?
Thanks.
First, the "4" is the generation of "A" series block, and yes the engine will bolt to the tranny, you need to wire in the engine and as for the tranny youre better off putting a stick in.
First, the "4" is the generation of "A" series block, and yes the engine will bolt to the tranny, you need to wire in the engine and as for the tranny youre better off putting a stick in.
Alright, thanks.
But one more question, I can use the engine mounts from the 4ac motor on mine right?
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). dont forget honda f20c's as an option to, its been done a coupel times.
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