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Charcoal canister is at the core of every EVAP system. It consists of activated carbon -- a substance with an extremely large effective surface area (due to its pores and/or granular structure) -- which stores fuel vapors. A bad charcoal canister causes drivability problems such as flooding, fuel odor, reduced power, rough engine, and increased pinging, and it results in reduced fuel economy. Unfortunately there are no instructions anywhere on how to repair it if it goes bad. This post is aimed at filling that gap and providing repair instructions for malfunctioning charcoal canisters.

Here are the schematics of the charcoal canister for the 1985 Corolla and similar models sold in US:



There are two filters in the canister (dashed lines).

A tank port leads the fuel-tank vapors into the canister for storage. There are two check valves in opposite direction to each other at this port. No. 1 can only open toward the inside and No. 2 can only open toward the outside. They are made of a stainless-steel spring and a stainless-steel ball. No. 2 check valve can be seen through the tank port if you shine a light.

Carburetor port (for carbureted cars) is connected to the float chamber through the outer-vent control valve (OVCV), which is off when the ignition is on and on when the ignition is off. You can see the filter through this port if you shine a light. It collects the float-chamber vapors when the engine is not running.

The purge port connects to the intake manifold to send the vapors to the intake manifold for combustion when needed. There is a vacuum-switching valve (VSV) connected between this port and the intake manifold to control this.

The atmospheric port at the bottom is for balancing the pressure inside. It has a hose that goes into a hole inside the left fender. This hose may also occasionally release fuel vapors to the atmosphere and it's important to route it through the hole provided inside the fender for eliminating fire hazard.

Note that as part of the EVAP system, the fuel-filler cap also has a check valve in, which leads air into the fuel tank if vacuum forms in the fuel tank, hence preventing the collapse of the fuel tank due to the atmospheric pressure.

The idea is to store the vapors from the fuel tank and float chamber, which would otherwise be released to the atmosphere and pollute and waste, and then send them to the intake manifold for combustion when appropriate. OVCV and VSV control this action and the properly placed ports, check valves, and filters make sure that the system works in the intended way.

Study the schematics above to understand how the canister works. The schematics is taken from the 1985 Corolla FWD repair manual EVAP emission system pages. See these pages for the basic description, diagrams and schematics, and maintenance instructions.

Maintenance instructions in the manual describe how to clean the filter and how to inspect for a stuck check valve. But they don't instruct how to repair a stuck check valve, which cannot be accessed from the outside. This is a common problem happening due to fuel and fuel-additive varnish and dirt and the manual instructs for replacing the canister in this case. Unfortunately, the canister is no longer made and sold and this is impossible. Fortunately, due to its simple stainless-steel-ball-and-spring construction, it's easy to fully clean and free the check valve and hence repair the canister.

Note that the check valve that goes bad is No. 1, which is not visible from the outside. The check valve that is visible through the tank port is No. 2 and you should not pry it as it doesn't open toward inside but it opens toward the outside.

Tools needed:

Compressed-air source
Compressed-air-gun attachment
Safety goggles
Gumout carburetor & choke cleaner by SOPUS (Shell Oil Products US)
Various-size hoses
Clamps or Vise grips to clamp the hoses closed
10 mm socket and rachet
Pliers
Shop towel or paper towel
Gloves if you prefer
Hand cleaner

As usual, always take your time and proceed slowly and with caution to avoid breaking things while you're trying to fix them. Many things involved are delicate and can easily break if you do the wrong, unpredicted, and badly planned move. There is always trial and error involved and proceed cautiously to minimize error during trial.

Make sure to use safety goggles as it's very easy to get the carburetor-cleaning solvent in your eyes when working with compressed air.

In order to access the canister, detach the cold-air-intake hose from the air cleaner.

Also pull the fuel filter off its bracket but do not disconnect the fuel hoses.



Remove the bolt that attaches the OVCV to the canister bracket.

Unplug the OVCV.

Note down the orientation of the three ports and hoses connected to them at the canister.

Pull the clips backward and carefully pry the hoses by pulling them from the very bottom. Do not pull the hoses from the top. They can easily break and you could have a hard time finding a good replacement. The molded hose that connects to the OVCV is no longer made but you can fit a regular hose if you aren't careful and break it or if it's already broken. A good trick: I twist the hoses clockwise and counterclockwise at the very bottom to break the seal -- it helps a lot to remove them.

Remove the nut and bolt that tightens the clamp around the canister. (Do not remove the clamp and bracket itself.) Be careful not to drop and lose the nut and bolt when removing them.

Lift out the canister.



Clean the outside of the canister.



Before you remove the S-shaped bottom atmospheric hose, note its orientation. There is a mark -- two concentric circles-- on the canister to denote its orientation. It needs to be in the correct orientation so that it goes into the hole inside the fender.



First clean the air filters. The outer surface of the bottom filter is the most likely to be dirty. Therefore, blow 43 psi (specified in the manual but you can use up to 100 psi) compressed air from the carburetor port while holding the other two top ports closed with your fingers. If you can attach a hose to carburetor the port, it will work much better. No activated carbon should come out. If it does, you have a broken filter.

Then clean the outer surface of the top filter by blowing 43 psi compressed air from the bottom atmospheric port.

Clean the bottom filter one more time by blowing from the carburetor side with 43 psi air.

To see if the No. 1 check valve is stuck, connect a hose and blow 43 psi air from the tank port. When you trigger the air on and off, you should hear the stainless-steel ball click. If it's stuck, pour some Gumout carburetor & choke cleaner into a hose attached to the port and blow up to 100 psi compressed air. Repeat it several times until the ball freely clicks when you repeatedly trigger the compressed-air gun on and off.

CAUTION: Avoid using excessive amounts of Gumout cleaner, as there is a chance that it might damage the activated charcoal or filters. Also, do not put any Gumout cleaner into the carburetor, purge, or bottom atmospheric ports, as they directly open to the filter. The filters should remain as dry as possible during the cleaning process to avoid permanently clogging them. Gumout cleaner should only be used at the tank port.





Drop the compressed-air pressure to around 15 - 20 psi. When the compressed-air is flowing through the tank port, you should hear a ringing sound (like a cricket) coming from the No. 1 check valve, indicating that it's opening slightly.

Likewise, clean the No. 2 check valve by pouring Gumout cleaner into the hose connected to the tank port but this time connect hoses to the carburetor and purge ports and clamp them closed. Blow up to 100 psi from the bottom atmospheric port.

Reclean the filters as described above.

Reattach the bottom hose (atmospheric hose) in the correct orientation (according to the mark on the canister). Put its clip back.

Reinstall the canister. You may need a hand in putting in the bolt and nut for the clamp as the bolt is very short. It will help if someone can squeeze the clamp with pliers when you thread the nut. If not, use a Vise grip to squeeze the clamp or struggle with it for half hour like I did.

Replug all the hoses and put their clips back. Replug OVCV and install the bolt that attaches it to the bracket. Put the OVCV connector in its clamp.

Put the fuel filter back in its bracket.

As part of ensuring safety, make sure that all fuel hoses and clips are in good condition and all fuel-hose insulators are in appropriate positions.

Reattach the cold-air-intake hose to the air cleaner.

Don't forget to put the canister bottom atmospheric hose through the hole in the fender; otherwise, it might suck in hot air from under the hood, which would cause drivability problems. Since it may also occasionally release fuel vapors, it could create a fire hazard as well. In order to do that, turn the wheels all the way to the right and use your left hand to feel the hose and hole from above the left wheel and put the open end of the hose into the hole.

Enjoy better fuel economy, more horsepower, smoother-running engine, and less flooding.

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Are the negative results of not getting the canister replaced the same for other cars? I drive a 2001 camry LE (260k miles.) A few months ago I brought the car in because of the check engine light coming on. He told me it's because I need a new charcoal canister.

Because I haven't felt like dropping $700+ for a replacement I still have yet to replace it, but the only negative result he mentioned was the pollutants going into the air. He said it wouldn't affect anything else (like fuel economy, drivability, etc.) And so this is why I have been in no rush to have the replacement done.

(I know I sound like a horrible person! But it's money I can't just throw down if the issue doesn't affect its ability to drive)

Do you think this is true for my camry (that the pollutants pose the only negative effect) ? Also, as the canister gets more dirty or more in need of replacement is that going to make the check engine light come on more frequently? (Considering nothing else turns it on)

And (sorry!) Lastly, just so I know - when any malfunction or leak or whatever occurs enough to turn the check engine light on and I reset it - without addressing the problem - is it three cycles (starting the car 3 times) before the light comes on again for this same unadressed problem?

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Are the negative results of not getting the canister replaced the same for other cars? I drive a 2001 camry LE (260k miles.) A few months ago I brought the car in because of the check engine light coming on. He told me it's because I need a new charcoal canister.

Because I haven't felt like dropping $700+ for a replacement I still have yet to replace it, but the only negative result he mentioned was the pollutants going into the air. He said it wouldn't affect anything else (like fuel economy, drivability, etc.) And so this is why I have been in no rush to have the replacement done.

(I know I sound like a horrible person! But it's money I can't just throw down if the issue doesn't affect its ability to drive)

Do you think this is true for my camry (that the pollutants pose the only negative effect) ? Also, as the canister gets more dirty or more in need of replacement is that going to make the check engine light come on more frequently? (Considering nothing else turns it on)

And (sorry!) Lastly, just so I know - when any malfunction or leak or whatever occurs enough to turn the check engine light on and I reset it - without addressing the problem - is it three cycles (starting the car 3 times) before the light comes on again for this same unadressed problem?

Thanks,

-Wes
Hi Wes,

Since your system is venting fuel into the air, you will see a slight loss in fuel economy -- no doubt -- but it may be too small for you to notice. As far as drivability is concerned, it will cause minor drivability problems but your engine-management system, which is in your case electronic, will do as good a job as it can to compensate for it. Perhaps for this reason your drivability problems might be hard to notice in comparison to my carbureted engine.

I agree that $700 is a lot and don't do it unless you want to or need to. You can try to have the canister filters cleaned and the tank port flushed with Gumout carburetor and choke cleaner and 100 psi compressed air to free a stuck check valve as I described -- perhaps a shop can do it for you for only a few bucks. In California you wouldn't be able to pass the emissions test with the check-engine light on.


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Thanks again...I will probably just pay for the replacement later this week and get it over with. Yeah $700, but it's got to be done sometime and this has been the only true fault at stake lately. These probably don't need to be replaced much?

And at least I'll know for sure that everything is running at it's optimum.
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Thanks again...I will probably just pay for the replacement later this week and get it over with. Yeah $700, but it's got to be done sometime and this has been the only true fault at stake lately. These probably don't need to be replaced much?

And at least I'll know for sure that everything is running at it's optimum.
Your new OEM Toyota charcoal canister is selling for $223.61 for Part No. 77740-06170 (US-made Camry) and for $261.94 for Part No. 77740-33122 (Japan-made Camry) online. Ask how much they charge for labor and you can probably have it replaced for about $300 including labor if you order it online. It should last for more than 10 years if you don't use fuel additives or bad fuel.

In your case you can still get a new one but I had to repair mine because it's no longer made or sold. I think it will still last for another 10 years or more after the repair. Yours may be also in a hard to reach place (such as above the gas tank).

Good luck!


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Thank you, but unfortunately that part won't fit my model, I will dig around that same site though. Do you consider toyotapartszone trust-worthy for purchasing this type of item? Thanks again.

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Thank you, but unfortunately that part won't fit my model, I will dig around that same site though. Do you consider toyotapartszone trust-worthy for purchasing this type of item? Thanks again.

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Yes, they work directly with authorized Toyota dealers; so, the part you're getting is coming from an authorized Toyota dealer just as you would pick it up in person from the dealer.

Since you're on the East Coast, use toyotapartseast for quicker shipping -- same thing, East Coast dealer. Make sure to use your VIN and carefully go through all the diagrams and lists to ensure getting the correct part.
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Charcoal canister is at the core of every EVAP system. It consists of activated carbon -- a substance with an extremely large effective surface area (due to its pores and/or granular structure) -- which stores fuel vapors. A bad charcoal canister causes drivability problems such as flooding, fuel odor, reduced power, rough engine, and increased pinging, and it results in reduced fuel economy. Unfortunately there are no instructions anywhere on how to repair it if it goes bad. This post is aimed at filling that gap and providing repair instructions for malfunctioning charcoal canisters.
There is a caveat though.

It turns out that even if you can completely free the stuck check valve, you may have a lot of deactivated carbon in the canister and the vapor capacity may be substantially reduced. It's not easy to reactivate the charcoal. Charcoal gets saturated over the years and it won't store enough vapors in its pores unless it's reactivated. Wikipedia describes the reactivation procedure but it's not something you can easily do at home. Here is the link:

Regenerating activated carbon

Perhaps you could try putting it an oven but there would be fire hazard from the fumes. You can also try a torch to heat it. Or perhaps leave it under under hot summer sun for a week.

Also, use the smallest possible amount of Gumout carburetor & choke cleaner when freeing the check valve to reduce the saturation of the charcoal.

Someone in another forum drilled a hole in his canister and replaced the old charcoal pellets with aquarium charcoal pellets and plugged the hole and he claims that the vapor capacity of the canister was restored. This seems to be a good idea as well.

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I wanted to comment on this post. I recently purchased an 88 corolla fx. I have done alot of repairs on the little guy to get him up to snuff. I had continued problems with flooding. To the point that each start was with symptoms of flooding. Also my idle was crap to be blunt. I performed this procedure step by step today and my results are awesome. I put it all back together and nothing had really changed durring my first little jaunt to get pizza. Leaving the pizza joint, started right up with no throttling necessary to clear any flooding. At stop lights, smooth as butter. It was such a change that at a light I thought the car died on me. I recommend performing this procedure for no other reason than just to do it. I think it cost me 4.65 for the gumout and about an hour and a half. Even if you aren't showing any symptoms just do it for the piece of mind. Oh and to touch on what the last poster said, on the top of ours where the 3 ports are located, I noticed that that piece probably screws on. The 3 ports are made of aluminum and the body is a steel of some sort. Then if you look closely between the two, there is gasket material there. So I am guessing that rather than drill a hole in your canister that isn't made anywhere anymore, I would try to crack that top of. Maybe someone already has and can chime in.
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I wanted to comment on this post. I recently purchased an 88 corolla fx. I have done alot of repairs on the little guy to get him up to snuff. I had continued problems with flooding. To the point that each start was with symptoms of flooding. Also my idle was crap to be blunt. I performed this procedure step by step today and my results are awesome. I put it all back together and nothing had really changed durring my first little jaunt to get pizza. Leaving the pizza joint, started right up with no throttling necessary to clear any flooding. At stop lights, smooth as butter. It was such a change that at a light I thought the car died on me. I recommend performing this procedure for no other reason than just to do it. I think it cost me 4.65 for the gumout and about an hour and a half. Even if you aren't showing any symptoms just do it for the piece of mind. Oh and to touch on what the last poster said, on the top of ours where the 3 ports are located, I noticed that that piece probably screws on. The 3 ports are made of aluminum and the body is a steel of some sort. Then if you look closely between the two, there is gasket material there. So I am guessing that rather than drill a hole in your canister that isn't made anywhere anymore, I would try to crack that top of. Maybe someone already has and can chime in.
I am very glad that you got excellent results!

Yes, removing the cap assembly is probably possible. Look at the very first picture in this thread for the schematics of the canister. The cap assembly has the tank and purge valves in it and there is a large center pipe at the bottom of the cap assembly that goes through the top air filter into the activated-carbon pellets. You should be able to pour out the old pellets through that center hole in the filter and replace them with 100%-pure research-grade activated carbon such as this one:

Black Magic 100%-Pure Research-Grade Super Activated Carbon by API at Amazon Black Magic 100%-Pure Research-Grade Super Activated Carbon by API at Amazon


You would have to put the canister in a vise and turn the cap assembly counterclockwise with a pair of large pliers. You also need to make a new gasket from FEL-PRO sheet gasket material (sold for about $1 per ft in auto stores) when putting the cap assembly back. I haven't done it though and do it only if you need to.


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Dumb question... will this also work for EFI equipped cars? Like I've got a 4A-FE, and I know it has one of these canisters, but you mentioned a carburetor in this write-up.
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Dumb question... will this also work for EFI equipped cars? Like I've got a 4A-FE, and I know it has one of these canisters, but you mentioned a carburetor in this write-up.
The procedure would be similar. The minor difference in this case is that there are only two ports on top. There is no carburetor-float-chamber port -- only the fuel-tank port and the purge (intake-manifold) port. There is still an atmospheric port at the bottom.

To clean the bottom air filter, blow (up to) 100 psi compressed air from the purge (intake-manifold) port, as there is no carburetor port. Then clean the top air filter by blowing from the bottom atmospheric port.

Then pour some Gumout carb + choke cleaner into a hose attached to the tank port and blow 100 psi compressed air through the tank port while holding the purge port closed.

Then pour some Gumout carb + choke cleaner into a hose attached to the tank port and blow 100 psi compressed air through the bottom atmospheric port while holding the purge port closed.

These last two steps should free any stuck check valves or restricted openings. Don't overdo the Gumout and wet the activated charcoal excessively though, as it may never dry.

I don't have the inner diagram of this canister (should be available in the repair manual) but the above write-up should more than likely do it.

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OK, thanks! I'll have to try this one weekend.
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Nice thread Gohkan, its nice to see a smart thread in this section of TN
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One more question... I saw some activated carbon at a Wal-Mart in the pet supplies area, near the aquarium stuff. Would that work as well as the super activated carbon (linked to an Amazon item above)? One is super, the other isn't...?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_carbon
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