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Old 10-20-2007, 11:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 10-21-2007, 08:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Even if you get a proper paint can with car paint the results are poor to satisfactory at most. Its not the paint thats the problem, its the nozzle. Anyone whos painted a car with a proper spray gun with realize it. The best tips are the fan tips, but even with them the spray pattern is too narrow.
Also the pressure is not constant, it will go down the more you use the can. When it gets worse, you're gonna end up shooting droplets.


And again the pride comment, I dont see where people get that. I wouldnt feel any pride showing off a fender that looks like total shit compared to the rest of the car. Maybe I just keep high standards to myself or have a different sense of pride to most corolla people
Dude it's all in technique, if you keep cleaning the nozzle, shaking the can, etc., there's no reason you can't do wonders with it. Anyone with half a brain and decent hand-eye coordination can figure it out, you just have to practice a bit first and get a feel for it. As for the pressure, use more than one can, just use half the can and start another. It may be a waste but overall you're still going to save a load of money.

As for the pride, it seems like you have an alarmingly low level of confidence in what people can do when they put their mind to something. I don't have pride in things that look like shit, because I don't do work that looks like shit, and neither should anyone who has the right amount of will to put into making something look good. If you're going to do a half-assed job, don't do it at all, but if you're dedicated, anything's possible.

This is why:
I painted both doors and the fender on this car with spray can paint I had mixed at an autobody place. Poor to satisfactory my ass.

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Old 10-22-2007, 08:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Dude it's all in technique, if you keep cleaning the nozzle, shaking the can, etc., there's no reason you can't do wonders with it.
Its the limitations of the spray can that are going to cause issues regardless of how you shake it.

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Yeah, I do, because most of the times I see people try something only to fuck it up and then I have to fix the already fucked up part/fix/whatever. I've seen alot of things during the years I've done automotive work and thats how I formed my opinion on things.

Mind if I ask your age? Because I'm 26 and I've seen all kinds of shitty things. Ranging from paintbrushed cars to DIY electricians who've done hell with wiring. Ever seen a household plug in an enginebay hooking up things on cars. Thats actually quite something

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I painted both doors and the fender on this car with spray can paint I had mixed at an autobody place. Poor to satisfactory my ass.
well a 500x400 pixel image doesnt really say anything.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:12 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Its the limitations of the spray can that are going to cause issues regardless of how you shake it.


Yeah, I do, because most of the times I see people try something only to fuck it up and then I have to fix the already fucked up part/fix/whatever. I've seen alot of things during the years I've done automotive work and thats how I formed my opinion on things.

Mind if I ask your age? Because I'm 26 and I've seen all kinds of shitty things. Ranging from paintbrushed cars to DIY electricians who've done hell with wiring. Ever seen a household plug in an enginebay hooking up things on cars. Thats actually quite something


well a 500x400 pixel image doesnt really say anything.
I explained how you can bypass those limitations and I won't do it again, but I will add that if the quality of the paint is good enough (which it should be if you had it mixed at a proper autobody place), that itself can help overcome problems otherwise posed by a spray can (I know this from experience).

My age is 18.

And as for the 500x400 cop-out, give me a damn break! My goodness, anyone who has eyes can see that's a beautiful paint job. But if you're still in denial that an 18 year-old girl managed to produce professional-quality results with a spray can, blb can vouch for me as someone who's seen it in person, and the one who taught me how to paint in the first place (he's my dad).

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I'm just saying the spray paint is going to have its limitations whatever you try to do, its going to fall short compared to a compressor + paint gun.

As for the picture, heres an example how pictures lie:

Looks good doesnt it? Front fender is crumpled and painted with rattle can from an autopaint shop. When you get close to it, it looked like shit.

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I wasnt saying that, and lets not make this a sexes issue.
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I'm just saying the spray paint is going to have its limitations whatever you try to do, its going to fall short compared to a compressor + paint gun.

As for the picture, heres an example how pictures lie:

Looks good doesnt it? Front fender is crumpled and painted with rattle can from an autopaint shop. When you get close to it, it looked like shit.


I wasnt saying that, and lets not make this a sexes issue.
Making the sexes an issue wasn't my intention at all, I'm sorry you misinterpreted my wording that way.

Although I hate to do this, let's compare these photos in-depth and I'll show you the error of your comparison.
Firstly, your picture is on an angle, not in direct sunlight, and covered in shadows, whereas mine is straight, in direct sunlight, and not covered by a single shadow (except on the hood, which I didn't paint anyways).
My paint also has proper clearcoat, which the car in your picture seems to be either lacking, faded and/or badly laid on, and I think it's safe to say it's pretty well-known that a proper clearcoat (such as what my car has) can be very revealing.

I really don't see what's so hard about accepting the fact that beautiful results can be produced with a spray can and the right touch. Of course the people who are actually willing to put their all into it in order to produce such results are a sparse minority, but that doesn't by any means say it can't be done at all.
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As for the tires, using them in summer after the sipes (small swiggly lines) wear out is fine. I have a set used for 3 winters, and the snow/ice tread is gone, so I use them as 3 season tires till they wear out.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:06 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Making the sexes an issue wasn't my intention at all, I'm sorry you misinterpreted my wording that way.
Well thats how you worded it.
Why even say that you're a girl if its irrelative in the big picture?

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which the car in your picture seems to be either lacking, faded and/or badly laid on, and I think it's safe to say it's pretty well-known that a proper clearcoat (such as what my car has) can be very revealing.
Like I said pictures lie, Whole car was properly painted and clear coated and had a very deep shine. Thats why I said, you cant say much from pictures.
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Well thats how you worded it.
Why even say that you're a girl if its irrelative in the big picture?


Like I said pictures lie, Whole car was properly painted and clear coated and had a very deep shine. Thats why I said, you cant say much from pictures.
The mention of my gender was purely subconscious, it just kinda fit with the sentence, though I really don't see why we're even talking about it. I'm just not sure why you read into it as much as you did

If you're still hell-bent on thinking my picture doesn't mean anything, I'll wait for the other person who has seen the car in real life to tell you it looks just as good in person as it does in that picture. But I really must say, you trying to discount my picture as evidence that professional results can be produced from a can really does make your demeanor seem very desperate
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If you're still hell-bent on thinking my picture doesn't mean anything
Acutally I'm fine with it. I've done some rattlecan fixes in the past. I'm just not a big fan of them.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:21 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Saying all paint jobs done with a rattle can are bad and all paint jobs done with a professional gun and compressor are good, is rediculous. Certainly there is an element of skill involved. If you have a $500 Binks gun, a $2000 compressor, a state of the art paint booth etc, but if you don't understand when to use a fast reducer, or when to use a slow reducer, or how to set up the gun, or fan too slow or too fast or use too much pressure or too little air pressure, you can still end up with a bad job. Likewise, if you have the skill, and you don't hold the rattle can too close or move too fast and take into consideration the ambient temperature, and get a professional quality paint mixed in the can, you can end up with professional results. The place where I buy my paint is the same place the professionals go to buy theirs, and behind the counter they have many different fenders on display, all painted with rattle cans with the same paint the professionals buy and mix on their own......and BTW if you look closely at chris989's picture of the green doors and fender done with rattle cans, you can see her reflection in the picture. That job absolutely looks like a factory finish out of the showroom. If you look at the picture posted by flashmn, there is no gloss at all to that job. The paint was applied too dry with too fast of a reducer for the ambient conditions. There's no comparison. Pictures aside, chris989's paint job does look like an original factory job. I've seen the car in person. Feel free to do what you think is best with the budget you have to work with.
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there is no gloss at all to that job. The paint was applied too dry with too fast of a reducer for the ambient conditions.
Like I said the pictures is lying. but we can argue the whole day about how pictures are validate for body analysis... but thats retarded. If someone is happy with a rattle can paintjob, fine... its not my car.
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Depending on the lighting, you can easily make a glossy paint job look flat in a picture, but you can't make a flat paint job look glossy. It's all about the reflection you get the mirror smooth clear coat.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:57 PM   #29 (permalink)
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whats the point of this argument.. if someone can do it with a spray paint and knows it is possible to make it just as good then so be it... you dont have to believe him lol
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