Hey guys. New to the forum, and yet to create a website to where I can then upload pics of my wagon. I have a euro wagon, as I'm in Norway. Although an American, moved over here of course for a lady.
My bumper is stock, and I've seen quite a few members on here using early 90s fogs from Celicas and some even from Focus's in their stock bumper.
Wanting to put some fogs in my factory bumper grill in which of course I'll have to cut out a bit in order to make them fit.
What are the best suggestions of which fogs will fit the best? Thanks guys.
Nice wagon by the way, reminds me of my Corolla (also a euro-spec, except a sedan). The headlight washers are quite interesting on yours. The paint looks flawless.
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Ah yes, thanks so much for the advice so far. I'll look into them.
Kiwi-Corolla : you living in N. Zealand? I know they have some sweet Touring Z wagons there that are just lovely!
My headlight washers are quite powerful, they'll actually spray up and hit my roof almost! It's so funny, they come in handy greatly in our snowy winters like right now clearing up the lights.
The paint is just about flawless. Looks to me it was touched up at some time in its life possibly a few years ago. But someone not knowing anything about cars wouldn't ever notice the subtleties. It's a great car for me.
Ah yes, thanks so much for the advice so far. I'll look into them.
Kiwi-Corolla : you living in N. Zealand? I know they have some sweet Touring Z wagons there that are just lovely!
My headlight washers are quite powerful, they'll actually spray up and hit my roof almost! It's so funny, they come in handy greatly in our snowy winters like right now clearing up the lights.
The paint is just about flawless. Looks to me it was touched up at some time in its life possibly a few years ago. But someone not knowing anything about cars wouldn't ever notice the subtleties. It's a great car for me.
Yep, I live in New Zealand. It's summer here at the moment, but the weather has been fairly unpredictable lately (sunny for half the day then rainy for the next half). Know what you mean about the wagons here, I see a couple of nice looking BZ Touring wagons once or twice a week when I'm cruising around. I would love to get one someday as it'd be great to go travelling in (so I could sleep in the boot, lol). The factory 4A-GE Blacktop engine is quite tempting too. Your wagon is the first I've seen with the headlight squirters, bet they would disperse the snow and ice quite effectively. Keen to see some more photos of your wagon when you've got some spare time to upload them, looks nice.
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Yea I've never seen the headlight squirters anywhere else until I came here to Norway. Must have been an added feature for this part of Europe, since we deal with quite a bit of snow in winter.
I'll see about taking a few more pics soon, I've been meaning to take some anyway. Will add some of the inside showing the dash and cd unit I've added. The factory instrument cluster on mine is pretty sweet, white dials for speedometer and everything. At nite with the lights on, turns gray with red/orange numbers. Haven't seen that on other model Corolla's before other than here. Normally just a basic black on black color for the instrument cluster. Will have to show pics of that for sure. Gives it a sportier feel to the whole car. I'll see about getting these added up by the weekend.
And as for the Touring BZ,,,, yea... I'd loooove to have one myself, but don't think they make it over here to Norway in production shipping.
Hey Kiwi,, what's it like riding on 17s on your Corolla? Right now I have the stock 14 alloys, but thought the wagon may look funny going bigger than a 15.
I'm worried if I go too much bigger than a 14, it will be too much strain on the 1.3L engine, plus throw off the speedo some and take away a bit on the fuelage.
Notice anything different to yours after adding the 17s? I'm sure much better handling of course.
^^^^ Use this tire size calculator to examine the change in wheel diameter and the corresponding change in the speedometer readings. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Generally when you run bigger wheels, you tend to run a tire with a lower sidewall profile to try to maintain the overall diameter to keep the speedometer as accurate as possible if u wish. This presents some pros and cons.
On the upside a lower sidewall profile looks cooler and doesn't have as much sidewall flex on cornering so the car feels much more stable.
On the downside, a lower sidewall profile means more road feel and a slightly more harsh ride depending on how low you go. If you have nice smooth roads, then go for it!
You can get around the issue of increasing your rolling resistance by investing in a good set of lightweight wheels.
The factory instrument cluster on mine is pretty sweet, white dials for speedometer and everything. At nite with the lights on, turns gray with red/orange numbers. Haven't seen that on other model Corolla's before other than here. Normally just a basic black on black color for the instrument cluster. Will have to show pics of that for sure. Gives it a sportier feel to the whole car. I'll see about getting these added up by the weekend.
Awesome, looking forward to seeing the shots of the gauge cluster, as well as the interior. They always seem to change ever so slightly between countries, so it'll be good to see what they look like in Norway.
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Hey Kiwi,, what's it like riding on 17s on your Corolla? Right now I have the stock 14 alloys, but thought the wagon may look funny going bigger than a 15.
I'm worried if I go too much bigger than a 14, it will be too much strain on the 1.3L engine, plus throw off the speedo some and take away a bit on the fuelage.
Notice anything different to yours after adding the 17s? I'm sure much better handling of course.
Driving with the 17's is excellent. I was worried when I first bought them as I thought I would feel every little bump on the road (like some of my last cars) but surprisingly, they ride extremely smoothly. The handling definitely did improve, and I noticed a lot less body roll due to the slimmer tyres (205/40/17). My speedometer actually continued to read exactly the same as the circumference of the 17's with tyres is the same as the circumference that my stock 14's with tyres were. I've checked the calibration on numerous GPS devices and it stays perfect all the way up to around 150kph, where it then starts to become around 1kph out (but I think that's just the satelitte trying to keep up, LOL). Definitely a worthwhile upgrade in terms of handling and looks.
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Thanks Hook for the link. I have seen looked at it a few times before. Thing is, here in Norway they are very strict and we have to get our cars looked at every year or every other year called the EU Kontroll. So if they find something wrong with your car, you have to get it fixed within a certain time frame and you're not allowed to drive it until its fixed. In a way its good cos it keeps crap cars from breaking down all the time on the roads and also to help prevent certain accidents from happening which could be bad. On the flip side, coming from US I'm so used to not living under a socialistic govt and you can do whatever to your ride.
So here if you upsize your wheels/tires... the new tires have to have the same one complete rotation distance as the stock rotation distance did in one complete roll. Calculated by some numbers. If its over, you fail the control test and have to either get the correct tire size or you can't drive the car. So if I upsize any on mine, that'll mean I'll get a much lower profile, which will then most likely not give me a good smooth comfortable ride at all. My wagon and its suspension was built for touring, being able to travel on highways. I've never had such a comfortable ride...ok maybe once I did with an old '88 Mercedes E300 I had a few years back, but my former Lexus ES300 I had back in the states too wasn't even this smooth compared to my 'wagon rolling on 14s. These 14s are mighty small in my book, but I suppose Toyota figured it up best to put them on when coming out of the factory.
Thing is, here in Norway they are very strict and we have to get our cars looked at every year or every other year called the EU Kontroll. So if they find something wrong with your car, you have to get it fixed within a certain time frame and you're not allowed to drive it until its fixed. In a way its good cos it keeps crap cars from breaking down all the time on the roads and also to help prevent certain accidents from happening which could be bad. On the flip side, coming from US I'm so used to not living under a socialistic govt and you can do whatever to your ride.
We have the same sort of thing here in New Zealand. It's called a Warrent of Fitness over here (WOF). Except we need to go for one every 6-months (brand new cars only require them once a year).
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Kiwi-- The interior on mine is nothing to brag about. I mean, its clean and all, but the fabric they use here for the interior in western europe is quite cheap compared to what I'm used to back in the States. I'll take pics and show. I've found people here care more about getting from point A-B in their cars, then how big the wheels are, how shiny the paint is, how much chrome is blinging.. etc. Now there are a few around of course who will pimp up their rides a bit, but folks here mostly don't care much for those kinds of things. If I would have had a car back home with just the slightest little 1cm spot of rust, I'd be freaking out sanding it off and fixing it.... here the whole car could be full of rust and they drive it with pride, cos it still gets them around, and too, its flippin expensive to buy and operate a car in Norway. We are the most expensive country in the world almost. So I have to say my interior is a far cry from luxury. Before I bought the car and headed over to look at it, I almost cringed upon opening the door and seeing the splatter paint type design on the seats and door panels, hehehe. But I've noticed even Mercedes and BMW can have the same thing here too. So its all over the spectrum. I'll just have to post some up and let you see.
Wow, great to hear about your experience with the 17s. I once ran 17s on an old Accord I once had that came with 14s, sure the car looked much better with the 17s but was terrible on smoothness. So I've been skeptical with going up in size on my wagon. Though I feel at least a 15 would fill it in just a bit more, and still be able to keep possibly the same smoothness on the road. Saab here have a sweet wagon, and most run 15s, even the new models, and that car is much bigger and heavier than the Corolla wagon. And to me 15s on that Saab fits perfect, it doesnt take away from the beauty of the car, blends just right to where you notice the car first, and then that the wheel compliments it just right. I like that combo.
I'll just have to think about it some more if I'll hold on to the 14s and not worry with anything bigger.
Btw, PhatRoyale mentioned earlier above that 1st generation Caldina fog lights could fit in my stock bumper. You guys have any Caldinas in Zealand? If so, any good websites you know of to where I could possibly find some used Caldina fogs?
I've found people here care more about getting from point A-B in their cars, then how big the wheels are, how shiny the paint is, how much chrome is blinging.. etc. Now there are a few around of course who will pimp up their rides a bit, but folks here mostly don't care much for those kinds of things.
All the more reason to mod yours . You'd no doubt get a lot more looks when you're driving around . Would certainly be unique by the sounds of it.
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Wow, great to hear about your experience with the 17s. I once ran 17s on an old Accord I once had that came with 14s, sure the car looked much better with the 17s but was terrible on smoothness. So I've been skeptical with going up in size on my wagon. Though I feel at least a 15 would fill it in just a bit more, and still be able to keep possibly the same smoothness on the road.
To be honest it's not really worth going from 14s to 15s. It'd be better to at least go for 16s, as they'll fill up the guards more and the tyres will work out cheaper than 15s. If you do decide to go for 17s but still want to keep the ride as smooth as it is now, then just chuck some fat tyres on (such as 205/45/17) as they will cushion things a lot better and also help to fill the guard space. It also all depends on how sagged your springs are though, and how much life is left in your shocks.
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You guys have any Caldinas in Zealand? If so, any good websites you know of to where I could possibly find some used Caldina fogs?
Yep, we've got Caldinas here in New Zealand. In fact, my brother owns a 1998 Caldina GT-T (turbo). They have fog lights in the front too which look quite good. There are a lot of earlier model Caldinas over here that them as well. I'd love to send some over to you but the overseas postage prices in this country are ridiculous as we only have one major postal service (NZ Post). Would be cheaper for you to source some on eBay or from an online parts store.
EDIT: Here's a link to an auction site I use here in NZ. These are the exact same bumper lights as my brother has in his Caldina. They're called driving lights here as we don't get much fog, lol:
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Fogs for a '97 wagon
1993 Toyota Corolla
. You'd no doubt get a lot more looks when you're driving around 
. Would certainly be unique by the sounds of it.
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