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Old 03-10-2010, 07:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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any ideas? Car idles, but then dies when put into drive

Hey all...

I have 1995 1.8 corolla.

Go to start, starts right up. Idles fine. Put into drive and it starts to hesitate and then ultimately just dies. ONLY if I put it in Drive. Keep it in park, and you can rev it just fine. After it dies, it takes a few more cranks to get it started, but always starts and idles...until you go in drive.

Any ideas?

I ruled out the plugs, cap, rotor - they all looked ok
I ruled out the fuel pump and filter - as the car revs just fine

I'm new to toyota..like only 1 week new so bare with me

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Will it keep running if you give it throttle? I feel like the idle air control valve could be gummed up a little bit. If it still dies with throttle, I think that it might be that the torque converter is stuck locked up... which is typically a difficult problem to fix.
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Will it keep running if you give it throttle? I feel like the idle air control valve could be gummed up a little bit. If it still dies with throttle, I think that it might be that the torque converter is stuck locked up... which is typically a difficult problem to fix.
When in park, you can give it throttle..no stalling
When you put in Drive, Reverse or L, it will idle for a few seconds then begin stalling then stall out.

If you apply the gas it just stalls out.

The engine does rock a little when drive is engaged, but nothing abnormal.
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As iToaster said, it's possibly a locked torque converter. It actually happens pretty frequently. Don't let him scare you, it's not THAT difficult to fix. You have to drain the transmission, pull it, replace the torque converter, bolt the transmission back onto the engine, and fill the system with fluid. There's a little more to it than that, of course, but it's relatively straightforward. It's just time-consuming. It's a lot like replacing a clutch on a manual transmission.
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As iToaster said, it's possibly a locked torque converter. It actually happens pretty frequently. Don't let him scare you, it's not THAT difficult to fix. You have to drain the transmission, pull it, replace the torque converter, bolt the transmission back onto the engine, and fill the system with fluid. There's a little more to it than that, of course, but it's relatively straightforward. It's just time-consuming. It's a lot like replacing a clutch on a manual transmission.
Any other tests that might help confirm this...??
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could even be a bad fuel pump or weak ignition coil.
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could even be a bad fuel pump or weak ignition coil.

Because I'm able to rev the crap out of it in park and neutral...I ruled both of those out.
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Any other tests that might help confirm this...??
If you can put it in neutral and get it to roll then shift to drive, it should drive normally as long as you don't stop. That is, however, dangerous... but if it lurches forward before stalling it's pretty much a bad torque converter.
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Because I'm able to rev the crap out of it in park and neutral...I ruled both of those out.
good reasons, in that case it does sound like it could be a trans problem.
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Just a follow up for future seekers...

It was the ECU that was faulty. $90 at the junk yard and all is good.

Thanks.

Edit:
WRONG - it was all good because it was cold. Same problem once it was up temp. DOH. Back to diagnosis.

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Im curious to what the end result is, mines doing almost the exact some thing, starts and idles GREAT, I can get mine to drive but almost immeditaly it feels like either the torque is locking up and releasing or just slipping, and when it does the car just about stalls out, sometimes if Im going slow it will stall....Im thinking torqueconverter/tranny also.
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I sure hope I never have to drop the trans off of our 96. Damn heavy@$$ slushboxes. I'll be using my cherry picker to lower it down to the floor if I have to.
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Well I tracked it down.

It was a bad ignition coil.

Replaced it with a new one...and NOW its fixed. Finally.

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