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Old 06-05-2010, 05:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4A-GE 20V from AE101 swap to Corolla EE100 - help

Hi all,
Im making swap of 4AGE 20V ST from Toyota Corolla Ceres GT to my Toyota Corolla EE100(old engine 4EFE).
Engine is now mounted in my Corolla.
But I have problems with eletric wiring.

I need you help to find(or if any body have) Toyota Corolla Ceres GT repair manual or wiring diagram.

Ceres is : TOYOTA COROLLA Ceres GT JPN SED 4AGE ATM 4FC 4D (AE101-AEPVF)

If anybody have any manual please tell me.
Maybe can help manual from Corolla AE101 FX GT (with silvertop).

And..donor car(Ceres) has auto. transmission, my car has manual transmision.

Thank you.

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And some photos of my cars:
Swapped engine to Corolla E100(model:1993)

Donor car and engine in donor car:


My car before i start swap:




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Old 06-06-2010, 05:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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nice looking corolla...
good luck someone will be able to help with your prob ...
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nice ee100 dude if you reserch a few treads here you will see that a few ppl have done the swap.
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Old 06-09-2010, 05:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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@mitman: what part of the wiring doesn't line up, the fusebox in the engine bay on the corolla, or the interior loom connector?

the fusebox has 3-4 connectors from memory, and the interior loom has 1 long black connector (22pin long) and the 16-pin ecu connector connected to the interior loom.let us know which of the options you are stuck on and we might be able to help
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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@miib14 : thank you
@topnotch : thanks

@Steelballz: its little hard my EE100 have (as you say) 1 interior -long black 22pin and 16-pin connector to ecu and some connectors from engine wiring.
Ceres(AE101) have little more ... from engine wiring :
1 interior long black 22pin
1 interior long gray(dont remember how much pins)
2 ECU connectors
And interior wiring of Ceres(AE101) have:
1 interior long black 22pin
1 interior long gray(dont remember how much pins)
1 connector to ECU 22pin


Interior connector -long black 22 pin from EE100 dont match with long black 22pin from AE101.
Remaking of 22 pin ECU connector from AE101 isnt so hard.. i have ECU (A/T) pin out.
Remaking of interior long gray connector is hard .. because i dont have any diagram

My opinion is use all AE101 interior wiring and engine wiring(engine wiring is now ported to EE100) .. It seems as easiest way for me(im not electrician)
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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@miib14 : thank you
@topnotch : thanks

@Steelballz: its little hard my EE100 have (as you say) 1 interior -long black 22pin and 16-pin connector to ecu and some connectors from engine wiring.
Ceres(AE101) have little more ... from engine wiring :
1 interior long black 22pin
1 interior long gray(dont remember how much pins)
2 ECU connectors
And interior wiring of Ceres(AE101) have:
1 interior long black 22pin
1 interior long gray(dont remember how much pins)
1 connector to ECU 22pin


Interior connector -long black 22 pin from EE100 dont match with long black 22pin from AE101.
Remaking of 22 pin ECU connector from AE101 isnt so hard.. i have ECU (A/T) pin out.
Remaking of interior long gray connector is hard .. because i dont have any diagram

My opinion is use all AE101 interior wiring and engine wiring(engine wiring is now ported to EE100) .. It seems as easiest way for me(im not electrician)

what you need to do is (for engine loom's):
long black and long grey are actually the same wires as in the ee101, but the ee101 has the wires in the black connector (I think 22wires all used) while the ceres probably has the same amount of wires used on both plugs...bear in mind some of that sh*t is for aircon, are you keeping aircon? here in Ireland we usually bin the aircon because its so cold haha.
keep the 2 ecu connectors from engine loom the way the are, plug them into the ecu so you don't accidentally cut them or touch them...

for interior loom:
as said, the black ee101 and the black/grey ceres 22-pin connections can be matched as most of the wires should be the same...

for the 22-pin ecu connector, open the top side of the ecu (in your house or garage, dont get ANY dust or water in!) and see if the 22-pin connection has the wire printouts on the ecu board...if it does, the right wires must be matched to the corresponding wires from the 16-pin corolla ecu connector (the interior loom connector).the corolla ecu doesn't usually have ecu pinouts printed on the board, if you need I will send you the pinouts I got off kiwi-corolla and re-organised so I could see what was what
and it should work then, as not all of the wires from the 22-pin ecu connector are used afaik...


hope this helps or points you in the right direction
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@Steelballz : thank you man for answer, i hope it will help me
In this moment I dont want to keep aircon, maybe I will put it in later ;o)
I tried to find what is what in interior loom and have this:




Maybe somebody can help me to fill in empty pins. ;o)

ECU pin-out:


In this pin-out im realy not sure what means:
ELE2 , THE , ECO , NSM(i think this is from neutral start switch)
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Have u check this page? Good luck with ur project.

http://www.freepdfmanual.com/2009/08...ntenance-guide
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@Kevin McDonald : yes, i was check it


Today I was started the engine , so now is time to find way how to connect other harness to dashboard etc....
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Hi all, after some weeks of work, corolla is working



but I have problem with Radiator cooling fan. Its still on, but fan realy is working and water temp sensor is working too

Does anybody know way how to fix it?
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looks nice man, what is the front splitter off, or where did you buy it?


the cooling fan is switched on by a 1-wire connector on the gearbox side of the engine if I remember correctly, check that that is connected properly and wired into the right ECU pinout (and not into either a wrong pinout of to a live feed).hopefully that helps.
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European Union nice style

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And some photos of my cars:
Swapped engine to Corolla E100(model:1993)

Donor car and engine in donor car:


My car before i start swap:



I like the style! you have also front bumper white your do it your self!

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