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Old 08-21-2010, 03:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Will these rims fit

I own a 1993 Corolla with stock 14" steel wheels. The tire size is P175/65R 14.

I have an opportunity to buy some OEM alloys from a 1990 Corolla GTS, Wheel specs are 14x5.5 with 38 offset and 4x100 bolt pattern. 185/60R14 tires. I'm really unsure about the tire size and offset stuff. But I assume that this is almost a straight forward swap with no possible issues. Need your advice.

Also the ad says that "there a few curb scrapes/rashes and a dent or two on the edges of the lips" but they hold the air pressure really well. Being that these rims are old a few scrapes and dings are normal. What do you guys think?

There is some aluminum oxidation spots on them. I should be able to clean and polish them out with out much problem, right?
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Welcome to the forums. They should fit fine. The speedometer calibration will remain virtually unchanged too. The offset is a little lower than the stock wheels and the tires are wider, but since the wheels are relatively skinny at 5.5-inches wide and the tires are slightly shorter in height, you shouldn't experience any problems with rubbing. As for the damage, it depends how big the dings are. You can get them repaired professionally, but as long as they're still holding air and you're happy with the way that they look then I wouldn't worry. You can get the oxidation off using oven cleaner and water. There are various guides on the net that will show you how. If the oxidisation is really bad then you can use sandpaper, and then finish the job with some alloy cleaner. A good coating of wax doesn't go astray either and will help prevent further oxidisation in the future. Good luck, and let us know how you get on
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Thanks Kiwi. That is what I was thinking but wanted a second opinion.

Just curious but what are the specs of a stock steel rims.
4x100 14x? with a ? offset.
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Thanks Kiwi. That is what I was thinking but wanted a second opinion.

Just curious but what are the specs of a stock steel rims.
4x100 14x? with a ? offset.
No worries. I'm not sure of the width of the stock rims (I'm assuming about 5-inches), but the offset is about 42p.
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Thanks Kiwi. That is what I was thinking but wanted a second opinion.

Just curious but what are the specs of a stock steel rims.
4x100 14x? with a ? offset.
4x100 14x5.5 with a about +45 offset. IIRC.
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So the only difference, other than the tire, is the offset then. I need to do little more research so I can wrap my brain around what offset really means,

I had the seller send some better pictures of the rims. I decided not to buy them. A little worried about the dents on the lips. But if he is willing to let them go for cheap I might reconsider. These are the rims in question.

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So the only difference, other than the tire, is the offset then. I need to do little more research so I can wrap my brain around what offset really means,
There's a lot of info online about offsets, but they're often explained in a way that is hard to understand, so I'll try and explain it as easily as possible. The higher the offset (+), the more the wheel will sit inside the fender and the closer it becomes to the suspension components. The lower the offset (-), the more the wheel will stick out, closer to the fender lip and further away from the suspension components.

If the offset of the new wheels is considerably less (-) than the stock wheels, then you may need to get the rear fender lips rolled so that it clears without scraping when going over large bumps (although this usually only becomes a problem when you lower the car or if the rims are much wider than the stock wheels). But if the offset of the new wheels is considerably more (+) then you may need to get spacers installed to make the wheels sit further away from the springs/struts.

As an example: I've got 17" wheels on my Corolla that have a -37 offset. I needed to get my rear fenders rolled so that it didn't scrape when going over large bumps. However, this is only because my wheels sit almost flush with the fender as they're 7.5-inches wide. You'll have more than enough clearance with 5.5-inch wide wheels, especially if the car isn't lowered.
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Thanks for the quick explanation Kiwi. And thanks Buurin for your input as well.

So if I understand correctly, the stock rims have a 45 offset and the OEM alloys have a 38 offset. That means the OEM alloy rims sit 7 (I assume millimeters) closer to the suspension and 7 mm further away from the fender. Since both rims are 5.5" and the OEM alloys tire size is 10 mm wider than the stock steel tire size. That means that the 10 mm gained would be 5 mm on each side of the rim. And the offset has moved in 7 mm. That means that the outer edge of the tire is 2 mm closer in form the stock tires position. and the inner edge of the tire is 12 mm closer to the suspension components. And if I want the tire to sit the same distance away from the fender as the stock tire was I would use a 2mm spacers.

Is that correct? Am I starting to get whats happening now?
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Sounds about right to me. The edge of the new tyre will be 2mm further away from the inside of the wheel well and suspension components, and 12mm further out from the edge of the bodywork.
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For those that are viewing this thread in the future and are learning challenged like me (I prefer the video medium) Here are a couple of videos I found while doing some research.

Custom Tire Selection - Size

Explains offset pretty well at 2:10 of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbs7yrI-FWk

Choosing Custom Wheels and Tires
Explains the info on the side of the tire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtmsyYR3JuI

All videos in this series
http://www.monkeysee.com/play/14464-...eels-and-tires

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Hey I have a really quick question... which I think is very appropriate for this thread... hah, but would these rims fit on my corolla? And my Corolla has not been modified with suspension or lowering kits. It is all stock. I was just wondering if these wouldn't look "too big" for the car. I want a really clean and slick look. So, I was wondering if these would fit fine?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-ROT...#ht_3628wt_939
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Hey I have a really quick question... which I think is very appropriate for this thread... hah, but would these rims fit on my corolla? And my Corolla has not been modified with suspension or lowering kits. It is all stock. I was just wondering if these wouldn't look "too big" for the car. I want a really clean and slick look. So, I was wondering if these would fit fine?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-ROT...#ht_3628wt_939
The 45 offset is getting up there a bit, but since they're only 7-inches wide you'll probably be okay. If worst came to worse you'd have to use 5mm spacers to bring the offset down to 40, but it shouldn't come to that.
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Hey I have a really quick question... which I think is very appropriate for this thread... hah, but would these rims fit on my corolla? And my Corolla has not been modified with suspension or lowering kits. It is all stock. I was just wondering if these wouldn't look "too big" for the car. I want a really clean and slick look. So, I was wondering if these would fit fine?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-ROT...#ht_3628wt_939
Those will fit fine.

Just some properly sized tires and you're good to go. I recommend that you go with 205/45/16 to keep the speedometer readings as accurate as possible.
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ahh thank you guys so much. My main concern was that I didn't want rims on my car to look too big for the car like what those people do in their old lincolns and think they're ghetto for putting 22s. you know what i'm sayin? haha alright thanks a bunch for the help guys.
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