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Old 05-13-2011, 08:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ingredients for perfect sleeper?

Hi guys,
my name is Minh Tho from Israel (yeah yeah...), if few of you know Israel have very hard laws about modified cars.
I have few friends that have sleeper cars that runs almost 4years, coupe civic 95' 400hp+, even the Israeli Batman with the 700hp+ borg warner VR6T(pm for youtube link, mean beast ), and even fiat x1\9 and fiat tipo both integrala 2.0lt 700hp+.

I have ae101 rolla 4afe manual, thinking about getting the 4age blacktop 20v and I want to get 350-400hp.

Ingredients will be:
Forged pistons and the other vegetables...
Garrett GT3582R or the 28. (ofc with TIG-ART manifold)
Mishimoto Universal Intercooler M Line Black Size: 27.5" x 11.75" x 3" for sleeper look.
Haltech Engine management system.
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump.
Supra MKIV 550cc Injectors.
Full exhaust system by TIG-ART 2.5" (special order) that past the registration.
Toyo R1r 2semi-slicks on the front wheel.
and about the clutch and the gearbox I didn't thought about it.

The snail will get the boost in 4kRPM, this way I will be able to drive in low-profile till 2.5-3kRPM.

what do you think about it?
did I forget something?

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Old 05-13-2011, 09:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I edited the title and context of your post because TN does not condone unlawful behaviour on public roads.

I will leave it open for replies, but please do not mention those terms again.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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For a perfect sleeper, if that's really what you want, then you make it surprisingly fast because the outside looks stock or beat up. It is very simple. Making it fast, though, is another story...
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dont know why making a car a sleeper should be difficult, make it fast and leave it stock looking with simple rims so that you can use proper performance tires and thats all she wrote, but as phatroyale has said before, TN dont condone the street racing behaviour, if you really want suggestions on performance wise check (club 4age) think i got it right or hopefully someone else can pitch in and send you a link to some sites that would help you in building your sleeper, best of luck bro.
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Look up what Bazda did with a 7AFE bottom end and a 20V head. He's making something like 400 horsepower in a FWD AE92. Alternatively there are people who have swapped the 3SGTE in, although that's obviously a lot more fabrication work. There are two videos out there of a Filipino AE101 with a 2JZGTE tearing up the drag strip but at that point it's not going to be street legal or much more than a shell.
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Old 05-16-2011, 04:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Look up what Bazda did with a 7AFE bottom end and a 20V head. He's making something like 400 horsepower in a FWD AE92.
He's making 500hp now (340kW ATW) . Best run is 10.88 down the 1/4 mile.

Here's a link to his CarDomain page:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2131056/1988-toyota-levin
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It would probably behoove oneself to start off with as powerful a base engine as possible.

A 4A-GE 20V would make sense for the simple reason that it's a relatively easy swap into a 101, especially if you purchased a complete engine with the associated ECU, wiring, and gearbox included. CMIIW but swapping over just the head would lose you the stronger crankshaft and con-rods, higher comp pistons, and oil squirters among other things, although those would probably get shafted anyways eventually for custom parts in the quest for 350 to 400 horsepower.

A 3S-GE is possible (check out the TRD2000 for an OEM version, in a 101 chassis no less), and the 400cc extra displacement would make reaching 350-400 horsepower an "easier" prospect.

To get anything over 300 horsepower, regardless of base engine, would most probably require forced induction of some kind. Namely, nitrous, a supercharger, turbo, or combination. An N/A 2JZ, for example, makes "only" 225 or so horsepower in standard trim, and probably maxes out at something like 285 N/A unless you resort to wild cams, super-high compression, a displacement increase, a combination of all three, and/or magic of some kind (a phoenix feather wand might help here).

Just my two cents, shooting from the hip here brah. More experienced motorheads should probably chime in at this point...

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