Halo Projector to HID conversion question - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

itreflop117 · 05-14-2011, 11:20 PM

Well I finally ordered the halo projectors for my car and everything is wired correctly and the installation was perfect. My main question now is this: am I able to put an HID conversion kit with these headlights?

I only ask this question because the car's stock headlights are 9006. With the new halo projectors headlights, they converted the 9006 into H1. In other words, the new plug, plugged into the car's old factory plug (the new h1 plug plugged into the car's factory 9006 plug, thus converting it to H1) sorry if that's confusing.

So am I supposed to get an H1 HID conversion kit? or a 9006 HID conversion kit? The problem is if I get an H1 kit, it won't plug into my car's old factory plug. And if I get a 9006 kit, the 9006 headlight won't fit into the housing correctly.

So technically, I can NOT get an HID kit? Is that correct?

Sorry for such a long post, any info would be greatly appreciated thanks for your time!

Piloter · 05-15-2011, 12:37 AM

If you have the same projectors I do then they have warnings not to use HID kits in them, probably due to concerns about temperature issues.

That said....you can easily get 9006/9005 to bare-wire pigtail connectors, if you get the H1 kit for socket fit, you should be able to just cut the H1 connector off and wire the 9006 pigtail on. That isn't the nightmare that getting H4 bulbs to work with a 9005/9006 harness is (don't ask me about relays!).

itreflop117 · 05-15-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Piloter

If you have the same projectors I do then they have warnings not to use HID kits in them, probably due to concerns about temperature issues.

That said....you can easily get 9006/9005 to bare-wire pigtail connectors, if you get the H1 kit for socket fit, you should be able to just cut the H1 connector off and wire the 9006 pigtail on. That isn't the nightmare that getting H4 bulbs to work with a 9005/9006 harness is (don't ask me about relays!).

Yea, I have the same exact projector headlights. The only reason why i'm inquiring this idea was because I don't like the yellowish color to the stock aftermarket bulbs that come with it. So I was thinking to throw in some 10k blue bulbs. However, they only have 10k in HID... So I wouldn't know how to go out with the process. I don't know if it is worth all that trouble. The closest thing I could find for blue was the 8k and those did not require HID conversion...

So is it safe to say just to switch the bulb for th 8k bulb if I wanted blue? Otherwise I would have to go through with that plan stated above to get 10k blue HID bulbs correct?

Thanks again

gold94corolla · 05-15-2011, 02:16 PM

Hi, I am here to help you. I am an expert in HIDs, projectors, head lights, etc (among other things

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First, stay far away from blue lights. You will not be able to see anything at night. The blue color is bad for night vision, plus blue lights are always dimmer than white ones. But I agree that the yellow halogen color, especially out of these lights, is not good visibility, either. I recommend 5000K color, as it is pure white in these head lights. If you must have a bluish look, then go with 6000K. It will be dimmer though.

Also, stay far away from blue-coated halogen bulbs. These are a joke and a scam.

So your best option is an HID kit in these projectors. When done right, it will have little glare and a useable light on the road (although nowhere near as nice as cars with factory HID projectors).

You will buy the H1 HID kit. NOT 9006. The H1 bulb needs to fit into the projectors. The ballasts come with two pins that you can insert into the stock 9006 connector. Here is a picture showing the HID kit.

In this next picture, you can see in the background the HID bulb in the head light (different lights) but more importantly, you can see the pins inserted into the head light connector.

However, instead of simply inserting the pins into the head light sockets, you should install a relay wire harness. Just like an amplifier wiring kit, this will draw power directly from the battery to power the HIDs, rather than drawing power through the head light connectors. This will save your stock wiring, connectors, switches, since HIDs have a huge startup current. This will also ensure that your HIDs turn on without flickering.

To get the HIDs to fit in the projectors, you will need to grind out the side of the opening, similar to here:

This way the return wire on the bulb will fit through. You might also need to adjust the metal shield inside to get a good cutoff. You might need to modify the bulb seating as well to get the focal point exactly right. But when you are finished, your lights should look like this (5000K color)

Hope this helps everyone.

Feel free to view more pictures and information here
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/801395...edan-4d/page-6

itreflop117 · 05-15-2011, 06:06 PM

wow that's exactly what I was going after. Now my question is where could I find these type of HID kits? ebay?

gold94corolla · 05-15-2011, 08:01 PM

you can get them from Ebay sure, or DDM tuning. Neither place will have good customer service or shipping (potentially), but it is very cheap. However, if you'd like to pay for a better product, try theretrofitsource.com They have good OEM ballasts and H1 bulbs. And great customer service for sure!

Piloter · 05-15-2011, 11:03 PM

Gold, you've got a ton of experience with these things, super-awesome work on that page. What's your take on HID kit versus full projector retrofit versus a set of Morimoto minis in the stock holes?

gold94corolla · 05-19-2011, 08:16 PM

Thanks Piloter!

You mean an HID kit in the stock head lights? I definitely don't recommend that since it will be the most blinding. The HID kit in the ebay projector head lights won't be nearly as glaring, but the light is still narrow and poor, and it takes some experience with projectors to get the HIDs looking nice and sharp in there.

As for ebay projectors vs real projectors, you saw this comparison, right??

The real xenon is on the top, and that even has the highbeam built in.

So it is definitely worth the money for real projectors if you want the best night driving experience.

Now, as for your other comparison, using the Morimoto minis vs the FX-R or other great projector.

The full retrofit requires a lot of work to get the projector mounted and aimable. But the Morimoto projectors bolt into the bulb hole and can be easily adjusted with no work. You will have to buy the JDM head lights (with the combined high/low H4 bulb) like I have now. But the output of the Morimotos is not as good as FX-R, TL, RX300, LS460 etc. And the morimotos have some issues with reliability. They also do not take heat as well (definitely no 55 watt HID ballasts).

If you get a good set of Morimotos, the output can be good. These pics show the difference, but even so, the Morimotos will not have as good distance lighting and too much foreground lighting.

Morimoto:

FX-R

TL

So either option has its benefits, and it is really up to you. The more money you spend, the more work it takes, the more effort you put into it, etc, the better your lighting is