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Old 09-15-2011, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Performance Mufflers?

Hi bought a 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 1.8L back in april. I bought it at 205,000 and now its at 211,000 miles. I will post pictures in the future but for now I had a question about Performance Mufflers. Are they effective at all? The car is my daily driver and I just want to let it breath a little, give it a little extra hp.

Would something like this help?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3984Q2em1438Q2el2649QQ itemZ290600740036QQsspagenameZSTRKQ3aMEWAXQ3aIT

I already installed a K&N CAI and I'm looking for a nice little bump in performance. I do not currently have the funds for a whole exhaust system so I figured little mods here and there would help some.

What do you guys think? Any Suggestions?

P.S. - I have been following the forum for some time now with inspiration for my corolla, you guys have beautiful corollas. Mine will get there soon, I plan on having it for a long time.
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Save up and buy a whole system

I am 300 into my exhaust system with the header and catback
Just looking for a cat now, and by then I'll be close to 450 into it.
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Save up and buy a whole system

I am 300 into my exhaust system with the header and catback
Just looking for a cat now, and by then I'll be close to 450 into it.
So for about $100 for muffler + installation, not worth it?
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So for about $100 for muffler + installation, not worth it?
Not really.

I found a catback for 100+105 for shipping.
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Not really.

I found a catback for 100+105 for shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97-Corolla-JDM-N1-Catback-Exhaust-Muffler-Silencer-/270807667468?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Year%3A1996|Make%3AToyota|Model%3ACorolla&ha sh=item3f0d65130c


Better investment?

By the way, yes I am a rookie, this is my second car so I may have alot of questions but I'll continue to learn.

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-97-Corolla-JDM-N1-Catback-Exhaust-Muffler-Silencer-/270807667468?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Year%3A1996|Make%3AToyota|Model%3ACorolla&ha sh=item3f0d65130c


Better investment?

By the way, yes I am a rookie, this is my second car so I may have alot of questions but I'll continue to learn.

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I got a different one xD
But yeah, that's a lot better than just a muffler.
I just ordered a high flow cat too xD

My bank account is dead now...
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I got a different one xD
But yeah, that's a lot better than just a muffler.
I just ordered a high flow cat too xD

My bank account is dead now...
As mine will be. I plan on painting it within the next few weeks, then rims+tires. OF COURSE performance is first so I want to solve this first.

Do you install yourself or will you pay someone. Would you know the ballpark range of what they would charge?
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As mine will be. I plan on painting it within the next few weeks, then rims+tires. OF COURSE performance is first so I want to solve this first.

Do you install yourself or will you pay someone. Would you know the ballpark range of what they would charge?
I do all the work on my cars by myself.
And it depends on flat rate of the work.
Or if you know people like I do.
I know a shop I can go to and they will charge nearly nothing if its a boring day, or they let me take a bay up until I'm done.

If you have a lift, or atleast access to one and all the tools its pretty easy.
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I do all the work on my cars by myself.
And it depends on flat rate of the work.
Or if you know people like I do.
I know a shop I can go to and they will charge nearly nothing if its a boring day, or they let me take a bay up until I'm done.

If you have a lift, or atleast access to one and all the tools its pretty easy.
Any Welding Involved?
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Any Welding Involved?
Nope.
No cutting, unless yours is rusted on, and no welding unless you broke something.
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Soooooooooo, what do you get for all your money spent?

2 hp and a LOT more noise? Is it worth it? I dont think so but working on cars for so many years I'm jaded.

Personally I think 99% of the crap on ebay compromises performance AND reliability.

If you want performance, get a silvertop or blacktop engine for your car and leave the "fe" engines alone. They do exactly what they are designed for, (economy and reliability) and dont respond to (cheap) "mods" very well.

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Soooooooooo, what do you get for all your money spent?

2 hp and a LOT more noise? Is it worth it? I dont think so but working on cars for so many years I'm jaded.

Personally I think 99% of the crap on ebay compromises performance AND reliability.

If you want performance, get a silvertop or blacktop engine for your car and leave the "fe" engines alone. They do exactly what they are designed for, (economy and reliability) and dont respond to (cheap) "mods" very well.

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I want to see what this motor is capable of...when I blow it up, and knowing me I will, I will go for the silvertop or black top.
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Hahaha! I think the only way to kill it is not put oil in it. I think you will have some time to save up for the 'top engine.

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Hahaha! I think the only way to kill it is not put oil in it. I think you will have some time to save up for the 'top engine.

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If I can't get where I want with the 4A then I will go for a silver/black top.
Or something else if I see anything interesting.
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There is a considerable improvement above 3,500 RPMs with header and catback. 3K even if you wrap the header. Freeway merging becomes a lot less hazardous.

Problem is, at least with the 4-speed, our engines do drone a great deal at highway speeds. Most high-performance mufflers and too-small or removed resonators will be buzzy and frustrating as hell.

Having gone through three resonators, two different piping setups, and four mufflers, I would recommend either a stock muffler designed for a larger-engined car (currently running an OEM IS300 muffler with internal bypass valve) or an aftermarket specifically designed to muffle, not sound like flatulence through a wet paper bag. Something like the Honda-aftermarket dual-loop would probably sound phenomenal for our cars.
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