I will soon be the owner of my families 1999 Corolla CE sedan and i have.... plans for it to say the least... which include converting the back brakes from drum to disc, dropping the 1ZZ-FE and automatic transmission and replacing it with a 2002 Celica GT-S 2ZZ-GE engine and 5 speed manual then converting it to All Wheel Drive. how possible is the AWD conversion and how much will it probably run me? since the 2ZZ-GE and 1ZZ-FE are the same size it should not be that hard to swap them but how hard will it be to convert from autom tranny to manual tranny? and how hard will it be to replace the back brakes with disc brakes?
If anyone can help me that would be great becuase i like the car itself and Corolla are my favorite car... ever...
well i was going for a custom built AWD... cuz there is enough room in the undercarriage for a driveshaft center diff and a rear diff... cuz the horsepower i have planned for this corolla is a little too much for just two wheels... without running into the whole 'unable to control the car' problem
Last edited by 99corolla110; 05-22-2007 at 02:50 AM.
hmmm well i have a buddy going into hi performance and he DOES have to build a race car for his final project... i'm sure he could work out the kinks (that and i'm an engineering student) and this may or may not be a dumb question (thats not a good way to start a question i know...) but i need to settle this once and for all... i've heard two different things one guy told me that superchargers are run off the serpentine belt like the A/C and alternator and another told me they're run off the timing belt... the serpentine belt sounds more likly but could someone clear that up cuz i DO plan on supercharging this car in the end (i like response and linear accel over raw horsepower)
hmmm well i have a buddy going into hi performance and he DOES have to build a race car for his final project... i'm sure he could work out the kinks (that and i'm an engineering student) and this may or may not be a dumb question (thats not a good way to start a question i know...) but i need to settle this once and for all... i've heard two different things one guy told me that superchargers are run off the serpentine belt like the A/C and alternator and another told me they're run off the timing belt... the serpentine belt sounds more likly but could someone clear that up cuz i DO plan on supercharging this car in the end (i like response and linear accel over raw horsepower)
technically anything that pushes air into your engine is a super charger, even turbochargers are superchargers, but generally when people refer to super chargers, they are referring to non-turbo super chargers. A super charger can run off a belt, be geared directly to the drive shaft, it could even be electric running off the alternator, or any other power source. There is no easy answer to what a super charger is run off unless you are discussing a specific supercharger in a specific car. It sounds like you are planing to do a lot of custom work to your car, so you can design a Rube Goldberg machine as complex as you want to power your supercharger.
ok... which belt does your AVERAGE belt driven supercharger get its power then?
Furthering my question tho... how much will a 2ZZ-GE and a Matrix AWD system run me... if bought from a junkyard or bought new?
Last edited by 99corolla110; 05-22-2007 at 04:44 PM.
Most will have their own belt. Usually driven off the crank.
Can I just ask, what's the point of this thread?
You say
"I'm going to supercharge/4WD/engine swap my grandma car",
"by the way is this hard? how much will it cost?"
And we all say
"why don't you do some research",
"your just dreaming",
"why don't you do something easier/cheaper",
"why don't you apply some logic to the situation"
Then you reply
"Whatever I know what I'm doing, you'll see when I'm done, you'll all see"
And then we'll never hear from you again.
If this is the case, then can we just leave this thread to die in peace.
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Most will have their own belt. Usually driven off the crank.
Can I just ask, what's the point of this thread?
You say
"I'm going to supercharge/4WD/engine swap my grandma car",
"by the way is this hard? how much will it cost?"
And we all say
"why don't you do some research",
"your just dreaming",
"why don't you do something easier/cheaper",
"why don't you apply some logic to the situation"
Then you reply
"Whatever I know what I'm doing, you'll see when I'm done, you'll all see"
And then we'll never hear from you again.
If this is the case, then can we just leave this thread to die in peace.
ok no this isn't the point... i'm not dreaming and its not my grandmas car... i've already called the salvage yard i'm buying my 2ZZ-Ge from (but you probably don't know what that is!) with the transmission and i'm looking for a toyota matrix's AWD system... i was asking for ideas/ suggestions... so take your random and rather rood ramblings somewhere else
Fensport has done a 2ZZ-GE AWD conversion, although they have used a GT4 all-trac system in place with the 3S-GTE motor, you can try contacting them for more info. but the matrix AWD system IIRC acts more like a FWD car, until it detects rear wheel slippage, so there would be very little performance to gain. besides, it's not robust like a subaru or audi quattro system and would limit the amount of power you can feed through it. it simply wasn't meant for power. now i hope you have deep pockets to throw on your car because things aren't gonna be cheap.
Do you even have the slightest idea how much work a 4WD conversion is?
So, you're chasing big power with this engine and you think a system from a 130hp car is going to be up to it? (if you even manage to fit it to the car)
And by "i was asking for ideas/ suggestions..."
Did you mean you're only after idea/suggestions that match your own.
I'm not going to get into anymore mud slinging, so I'll not waste anymore of my time.
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oh... so someone HAS done an AWD conversion... cool and yes punter i DO realize how much work it will be... guess i could try retro fitting... course this isn't going to happen till i can amass the cash needed to do it... welll the 2zz conversion will happen soon cuz the old 1ZZ-FE is on its last legs and will be good for no more than another 30K or so miles...
I'm with punter on this one. You dont seem to be grasping an idea what you want to do. Better sit down and think things over.
As for your AWD conversion, punter has it there, you ask questions and expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter, you should do some research on your own to see what needs to be done, maybe then you'll see how difficult the project is. Really you're lost in the woods without a compass.
Heres some food for thought:
1) Chassis, All 4WD toyotas have a different floor layout to the ones that are just FWD, how are you going to modify the chassis?
2) Rear axle, How are you going to mount it? Are you going with a stiff rear axle or independent rear suspension. How are you going to get the springs to work and how are you going to supply enough rear suspension travel. Gastank getting in the way?
PhatRoyale, Fensport used the japanese 4WD Runx drivetrain custom mounted to a 3S-GTE, they didnt have a 2ZZ-GE engine in the black monster.
For the money you'll need to invest into the project... you'll probably save money by selling your current ride, buying a used AWD matrix, and drop the 2zz that you're planning to buy into it.
As for insulting punter about not knowing what a 2zz is... he's actually one of the more knowledgable guys on this site.
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