175/65/14 vs 185/65/14 Tires

[scooterxst]

Didn't notice much of a difference with my 185 compared to the 175 in terms of easier entry to the corolla. I agree with the last comment that it's the height of the car. It's much easier for me getting in my CR-V than my Corolla as I have to lean much lower to get in. I'm happy with the 185 size tires. Much more stable however not as agile than the stock 175. Gas consumption a tad higher as well.

[boredstudent3]

i don't see how switching to 185 would throw off the odo...the 185 or 175 is in mm and refers to the width of the tire...the 14 is the radius of the tire and as long as that number doesn't change then the odo should be correct?

the radius determines the circumference and the circumference determines the distance, correct?

[freeyellow2000]

Originally Posted by boredstudent3

i don't see how switching to 185 would throw off the odo...the 185 or 175 is in mm and refers to the width of the tire...the 14 is the radius of the tire and as long as that number doesn't change then the odo should be correct?

the radius determines the circumference and the circumference determines the distance, correct?

Well this is correct to some extend, what your referring to his the rim itself, it doesn't however take into account the actual tire itself


185 --> widith of the tire
70 ---> % of the actual width
14 size of the rim

Tire size calculatorl

The reason being it would throw off the speedo as much as because the stock size corolla tire i believe is 185-65-14. The 185-70-14 is only 8.25mm bigger sidewall over stock. See the link above to see the "speedo and enter the tire size according.


If you would to use 195 sizes, the aspect ratio has to be smaller (this is refer to plus sizing) where the goal it to keep the speedo correct as well close to the actual stock tires.

[morkys]

Originally Posted by scooterxst

Didn't notice much of a difference with my 185 compared to the 175 in terms of easier entry to the corolla. I agree with the last comment that it's the height of the car. It's much easier for me getting in my CR-V than my Corolla as I have to lean much lower to get in. I'm happy with the 185 size tires. Much more stable however not as agile than the stock 175. Gas consumption a tad higher as well.

You actually noticed gas consumption increase going from 175 to 185? Wow. Any change in acceleration / pickup?

[fishexpo101]

I'm running a 195/60R14 tire in place of the OEM 185/65R14 on my 8th gen Corolla. Still getting the same about of fuel economy as before. You do have to make some adjustments - playing around with air pressure and whatnot. Steering feel will be a little different, being a slightly wider tire - steering will not be quite as "sharp", but the trade-off for increased traction and other choices for tires sealed them for me.

Lot of it depends on driving conditions - in stop and go traffic - you might want the narrower tire (sharper steering, ligher weight). If you drive mostly interstate - a wider tire might prove to be beneficial (increased load, better traction, good stability).

Driving conditions are another thing to consider. I run a dedicated set of snow tires - as I travel a lot. My snow tires are a 175/65R14 - skinnier than my summer tires, because a narrower tire will tend to drive through snow than float on top of it like a wider tire would. Better chance to get traction, by punching down through the snow to the either pavement or packed snow underneath.

[PhatRoyale]

excellent points fishexpo101, you pretty much addressed all the issues and concerns that were raised.

[Bdub215]

Originally Posted by fishexpo101

I'm running a 195/60R14 tire in place of the OEM 185/65R14 on my 8th gen Corolla. Still getting the same about of fuel economy as before. You do have to make some adjustments - playing around with air pressure and whatnot. Steering feel will be a little different, being a slightly wider tire - steering will not be quite as "sharp", but the trade-off for increased traction and other choices for tires sealed them for me.

Lot of it depends on driving conditions - in stop and go traffic - you might want the narrower tire (sharper steering, ligher weight). If you drive mostly interstate - a wider tire might prove to be beneficial (increased load, better traction, good stability).

Driving conditions are another thing to consider. I run a dedicated set of snow tires - as I travel a lot. My snow tires are a 175/65R14 - skinnier than my summer tires, because a narrower tire will tend to drive through snow than float on top of it like a wider tire would. Better chance to get traction, by punching down through the snow to the either pavement or packed snow underneath.

I concurr. i too run the 195/60/14 tire (actually had 205/60/14 before i downsized) i do ALL city driving and get 200+ miles out of a tank and thats with some full throttle runs. i was happy to get rid of my tercel tires. car drives much better.

[thug lyfe]

my mom's LE came with 185/65r14 so you should be fine. holy cow it was definately weird for me coming from 235/40r17 but i love how i feel less of the road with these taller tires and stock shocks compared to coilovers.

[morkys]

Well, I'm trying to decide between these options:

stock 175/65-14 or;

185/65-14 taller and wider
185/60-14 shorter and wider
195/60-14 slightly taller and wider still
185/55-15 exactly the same height but wider

Which combination will work best for me? It's a battle between the lightest setup vs the setup with the lowest rolling resistance vs traction. Obviously the 175/65-14 will be low rolling resistance, but then again, so will the 185/55-15. Not sure about the 185/65-14 and 195/60-14.

EDIT - added the shorter 185/60-14.

[morkys]

Ok, I'm down to 3 sizes:

175/65-14
185/65-14
195/60-14

I'll be buying rims and tires any day now...I swear....lol.... :p

[freeyellow2000]

I would say either of these tires as they popular tires.

175/65-14
195/60-14


I personally would go for the 195 since I rather have more tread on the road then less.

[morkys]

Of course, the 14" FAST Static rims aren't appearing to be in stock in Canada anymore for this years models.

What about a 15" Konig Helium with 195/55-15?

Will a 195/55-15 fit on my Corolla CE if I'm not lowered?

...or could I use 185/55-15's on a 15" x 6.5" Konig Helium?

The 15" Konig helium's are light and are around the same price as the FAST rims. Not sure how strong they are though.

[liensalebuyer]

I have 195-60-14 on some type of stock rims. The rims came off a Paseo, but the holes are more of a racetrack oval, so I don't know if they are Toyota or not. Not use to a Corolla suspension, it felt kinda of loose, but I had a guy who owned a 98 Corolla drive it and he said that's how Corollas ride. Feels ok so far.

[01loadedLE]

I had no mileage decrease with 195/60's and traction was slightly better than 185/65's. The odometer offset from the 195/60's is within the odemeters mileage variation rate so no needed worries about actual mileage variance from indicated since theyre not perfectly accurate to begin with.

[morkys]

Yeah, the 195/60-14's are taller than my stock 175/65 but not quite as tall as the 185/65's. As far as height goes, I think it's a happy medium, and that's why it's still a consideration for me. Just not many tires available in all these sizes.