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Old 06-24-2009, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Newbie's project thread got hijacked...

Hey,

Okay, I hope the bashing is over...

LONG LONG STORY SHORT: The Prizm's bodywork is a mammouth of a project, so no motivation left to build up the engine. Also I sold the WRX, so I temporarily got a VW Jetta to drive while I finish the Prizm. I hate the VW and want my Prizm back, so I want to finish this as soon as possible.

So, I what I want to do instead is modify it to achieve some crazy MPG numbers. I get about 33 MPG right now and I drive moderately. Not running synthetic anything and am still running stock plugs. With a switch to skinny fuel efficient tires, synthetic oil and tranny fluid, fuel efficient plugs (if they work), good wires, etc, I expect to jump up around 38 MPG.

Now what I want to do is go a step beyond that. Something like: lower volume fuel injectors, more restricted intake, freer flowing exhaust, etc. Any trick that will possibly increase the gas mileage, I'd like to know about it. I'm looking for bragging rights here, so cost not a huge factor. Even crazy conceptual ideas are welcome. I'm looking to surpass 40 mpg (which I know is possible), but I want as much as possible. Let me know guys, thanks!
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So, I what I want to do instead is modify it to achieve some crazy MPG numbers. I get about 33 MPG right now and I drive moderately. Not running synthetic anything and am still running stock plugs. With a switch to skinny fuel efficient tires, synthetic oil and tranny fluid, fuel efficient plugs (if they work), good wires, etc, I expect to jump up around 38 MPG.

Now what I want to do is go a step beyond that. Something like: lower volume fuel injectors, more restricted intake, freer flowing exhaust, etc. Any trick that will possibly increase the gas mileage, I'd like to know about it. I'm looking for bragging rights here, so cost not a huge factor. Even crazy conceptual ideas are welcome. I'm looking to surpass 40 mpg (which I know is possible), but I want as much as possible. Let me know guys, thanks!
This probably belongs better to the fuel economy forum, but anyway, here goes.

Whatever you do, don't detune your car. It just doesn't make sense.

First, clear your trunk of any crap. If you are brave enough, trade your spare for a tire sealant/air compressor combo. Continuing this weight reduction effort, get some light alloys. Kosei K1 TS in 14" would be perfect. For this purpose, do not upsize.

Make your way to cleanmpg.com and learn some skills. Changing the way you drive has by far the most impact on your mileage. Buy a trip computer like Scangauge. You need its instant feedback to properly execute some techniques detailed therein.

Then you can mod your car to set it up for economy. People at cleanmpg now advocates pumping your tires to the sidewall max, not placard pressure. So instead of 32psi, you pump it to 44psi if that's what the tire says on its sidewall it can take. Run synthetic fluids in your engine and tranny.

Other mods done for gas mileage include grille block - use something to block off the holes in your bumper. Partly done for aerodynamics (idk about that) and partly done for faster warmup in winter. 9th gen Corollas have a little plastic baffle ahead of the front wheels; you'll want to see if you can add that.
Others have also tried adding an underfloor pan for a flat underside, again for aerodynamics.

One of the more extreme mods I've heard recently is to use a deep cycle battery and add a manual cutoff on the alternator. Don't try this one yet though, it's not proven yet.

Beyond that, it's time to read cleanmpg and ecomodder. Good luck.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Heres my tip.

Sell the car, buy a 600cc motorcycle or if you want ultimate mileage a bicycle.

if you want to keep the car, convert it to diesel, nothing beats diesel in mileage. You could get a TDI VW engine and stuff that into the jetta and be done with it.

What I find crazy in most ecomodder pages is the total lack of own safety. Pumping tires so that they balloon out will cause severe handling issues, tire wear and blowout risk. Alot of the electrical work they do have severe risks of electrical fires involved in them.

Oh and to make things interesting, a friend of mine gets about 47mpg (in steady cruise) in a modified turbocharged gasoline car, thats diesel territory. Nothing a properly designed fuel injection system running a standalone cant do I'm aiming for about the same numbers

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I got 41 mpg on the highway with my completely stock 99 CE. Granted, the weather was bad, so the average speed was about 53 mph.
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