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Old 07-05-2009, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Automatic Transmission Fluid help

I inherited my 2002 Corolla LE automatic from my father, with about 135,000 miles on it. I'm not sure that he ever changed the transmission fluid in this car. The car just hit 149,000 miles yesterday. I would like to know if this is a bad thing that it hasn't been changed? Also, how often would one typically change transmission fluid?
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How does the fluid look ?... smell ? Just drain and refill every third oil change. Easy. Good luck. Bingo
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The recommended service is every 30k miles according to the manual. If your fluid is not low then he likely did have the fluid changed. If its low, dark, or smells burnt then change it asap.
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I have read allot of forums, including the toyotas, in regards to changing fluids etc at high mileage. There seems to be a pro/con on this. SOme say do it, some dont due to transmissions breaking after fluid is completely changed/flushed.
Jiffy Lube flat out refused to do my 2002 corolla due to 90,000 miles claiming liability.
Well it seems that when you change the fluid, or flush all the fluid the transmission gets a fresh dose of detergents and cleans the transmission. This in turn causes your new filter, if you at least changed it, to get dirty real quick. This then causes transmission to not get proper fluid pressure, tranny slips and eventually burns up. Doesnt take much.
ANyways, if you decide to do this fluid/filter change etc, think about doing a few filter changes to ensure you are keeping clean fluid in there and extracting all the garbage the new fluid will clean out of the transmission.
Just my 2 cents.
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anyone know where i can find a diy for automatic tranny fluid change?
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have read allot of forums, including the toyotas, in regards to changing fluids etc at high mileage. There seems to be a pro/con on this. SOme say do it, some dont due to transmissions breaking after fluid is completely changed/flushed.
Jiffy Lube flat out refused to do my 2002 corolla due to 90,000 miles claiming liability.
My automatic transmission fluid hasn't been changed for approaching 40,000 miles. (Since 100k to almost 140k)

I inferred from the Toyota service checklist booklet that it should be changed every 30,000 miles, as has been said, so when my inspection came due I asked my mechanic about it, and he told me the same story as quoted above: "If nothing's wrong, you're more likely to break something in the transmission from flushing it." So, I still haven't, but it still bothers me.

What should I do?
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I am not a Toyota expert. But basic transmission 101 would be to flush it, then change filter a few times quickly after, like within a couple hundred miles, just go through the pain of draining the pan fluid, then the filter and clean the magnet within the pan. I have OCD when it comes to maintenance, so if there is a chance that the new fluid after flushing is going to cause problems due to cleaning the transmission, then I would change the filter 3 times after flush with new filter.
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Why risk with flushing. Just do a drain and refill every few oil changes. You might not get it all but you clean most after a few d & r's.
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My automatic transmission fluid hasn't been changed for approaching 40,000 miles. (Since 100k to almost 140k)

I inferred from the Toyota service checklist booklet that it should be changed every 30,000 miles, as has been said, so when my inspection came due I asked my mechanic about it, and he told me the same story as quoted above: "If nothing's wrong, you're more likely to break something in the transmission from flushing it." So, I still haven't, but it still bothers me.

What should I do?
Do a few drain and refills. I wouldn't flush a transmission that's getting up there in age.
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There is a difference between flush and drain/refill.

During the flush, im under the impression that the tranny is hooked up to a machine, and new fluid is forced in via pressure, and that in an older tranny, the pressure can cause problems.

A drain/refill is the same process as doing your oil. You dont get rid of all the dirty fluid, but most of it, and you install a new filter at the same time.

Ive always done drain/refill on my 01 rolla with 80K (only 2 done, another coming up at 90K). Both times that I have done this, I have a decent layer of metal slop/sludge on the bottom of the pan and stuck to the magnets.



I did a write up for a drain/refill while changing the filter.
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thanks for the link!


so when a Toyota dealer does a drain and fill, they don't remove the pan or change the filter?

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From the direct sound wording of "drain and fill", no.

But each dealer is different, one may do just a literal drain and fill, others may incorporate the filter with that.

Kinda like if you ask for an oil change, the filter gets replaced, by a good mechanic, but a jiffy lube may just change the oil and leave the filter. (example)
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From the direct sound wording of "drain and fill", no.

But each dealer is different, one may do just a literal drain and fill, others may incorporate the filter with that.

Kinda like if you ask for an oil change, the filter gets replaced, by a good mechanic, but a jiffy lube may just change the oil and leave the filter. (example)
ok maybe i should rephrase what i said...

what does the toyota service manual say to do when changing the atf? do they say drain then refill or drain, clean pan, replace filter, etc?
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Not sure what the toyota service manual says as I dont have one (i need to invest in one), but the haynes says to drain/refill/filter every 30K.
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Not sure what the toyota service manual says as I dont have one (i need to invest in one), but the haynes says to drain/refill/filter every 30K.
i called a few toyota dealers today and they all had a different answer...some do drain and refills, some do flushes.....some alternate between flushes and refills....

i wonder what the official toyota service manual says...
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