What kind of power would theses upgrades make in the 1zzfe
1 x Crower Cam Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Stage 2
1 x Crower Spring and Retainer Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE
1 x MWR 1ZZ-FE Valve Set
1 x MWR Crankshaft - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Lightweight Knife-Edged - New
1 x Crower Connecting Rod Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi
What kind of power would theses upgrades make in the 1zzfe
1 x Crower Cam Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Stage 2
1 x Crower Spring and Retainer Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE
1 x MWR 1ZZ-FE Valve Set
1 x MWR Crankshaft - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Lightweight Knife-Edged - New
1 x Crower Connecting Rod Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi
Any Segustions On pistons and Sleeve kits
well as for those mods, you wont pick up much power without proper tuning. as usual tuning is key to making power. are you planning on boosting or staying n/a? are you going to do the 1.93l overbore? what do you plan to rev to?
i am actually saving right now to purchase many of these parts, the only ones i am iffy about is the cams, since i am not a vvti engine i need to find out if they are compatable with my head. i am also debating if i want to turbo my car, or if i want to keep it n/z and build a set of itbs using blacktop 20v throttles. i will be going to a 1.93l and want to rev to at least 7800. if i go na then i think i will go for something around the 12:1 comp ratio. but if i do turbo then i will drop my c/r to 9.5L1 and seek out a gt32r.
my eventual goals are if i stay na then i want to break 200 whp. may seem kinda far fetched but i like to set goals high. if i boost then i will tune to the limits of the turbo or pump gas, which ever comes first, then turn the boost down till i'm around 250whp for daily driving. i also plan to use a megasquirt 1 v3.0 board since i just happen to have one allready, fully assembled and ready to go, sitting collecting dust from one of my past projects.
im buying all the parts and a local import tuner shop is going to do all the work For free if i put there 12x24 Decal on my car.. i want to hit about 200Hp on modded internals and a Greddy Emanage Unit. Then after that i will install a greddy turbo or the blitz supercharger that i already have. i want to get the most from it just to see what it can do
What kind of power would theses upgrades make in the 1zzfe
1 x Crower Cam Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Stage 2
1 x Crower Spring and Retainer Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE
1 x MWR 1ZZ-FE Valve Set
1 x MWR Crankshaft - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Lightweight Knife-Edged - New
1 x Crower Connecting Rod Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi
Any Segustions On pistons and Sleeve kits
where do you get these part ?
what is the 1.93l big bore ? you oversize the sleeve or what ??
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sorry for my bad english , Im frenchies !
i know about this website but i never check there piece .
i will be ordering them sometime next week, as soon as the block comes back from the machine shop, it will be getting a 3.0mm overbore and a set of Darton Sleeves and some 8.8:1 - 82.00mm Wiseco Pistons
i will be ordering them sometime next week, as soon as the block comes back from the machine shop, it will be getting a 3.0mm overbore and a set of Darton Sleeves and some 8.8:1 - 82.00mm Wiseco Pistons
nice. im still saving. as for the greddy emanage i'm not too big on piggy back ecu's. but its a decent system. i perfer megasquirt, simply because i have done quite a few car with it. from boosted cars to all motor/itb'd with spray. its a pretty flexible system.
What kind of power would theses upgrades make in the 1zzfe
1 x Crower Cam Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Stage 2
1 x Crower Spring and Retainer Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE
1 x MWR 1ZZ-FE Valve Set
1 x MWR Crankshaft - Toyota 1ZZ-FE - Lightweight Knife-Edged - New
1 x Crower Connecting Rod Set - Toyota 1ZZ-FE 1.8L VVTi
Any Segustions On pistons and Sleeve kits
Like Milky suggested - tuning has a big influence on overall power potential. Ballpark with just cams and typical I/H/E bolt-ons and some sort of piggyback EMS, they guys at NewCelica and other forums were seeing an additional 25-30WHP on average - some hit as much as 50WHP gain!. Without any tuning (stock ECM) - gains were about 1/2 that.
Have you given any though for induction for N/A app? Example, planning to run a much larger throttle body, custom intakem mainfold to take advantage of the new breathing requirements?
I believe that there is talk of a 1.93L project with basically the same internals that you've listed, Infiniti throttle body, cutom intake and exhaust, EMS + tuning, that was expected to hit a naturally aspirated 178WHP+ (little over 200HP at the crank).
Power can be made with these engines, but it will not be cheap. Smaller displacment engines tend to generate bigger numbers with forced induction, no real way around it, just a function of the engine design - unless you're willing to re-engineer the whole engine.
Maybe nothing for the car or generation bodywise, but plenty for the engine and drivetrain. Most of the engine/transaxle hard bits from the 7th gen Celica will work for our cars.
Like Milky suggested - tuning has a big influence on overall power potential. Ballpark with just cams and typical I/H/E bolt-ons and some sort of piggyback EMS, they guys at NewCelica and other forums were seeing an additional 25-30WHP on average - some hit as much as 50WHP gain!. Without any tuning (stock ECM) - gains were about 1/2 that.
Have you given any though for induction for N/A app? Example, planning to run a much larger throttle body, custom intakem mainfold to take advantage of the new breathing requirements?
I believe that there is talk of a 1.93L project with basically the same internals that you've listed, Infiniti throttle body, cutom intake and exhaust, EMS + tuning, that was expected to hit a naturally aspirated 178WHP+ (little over 200HP at the crank).
Power can be made with these engines, but it will not be cheap. Smaller displacment engines tend to generate bigger numbers with forced induction, no real way around it, just a function of the engine design - unless you're willing to re-engineer the whole engine.
well i see this as a good as time as every to give an example a decent n/a setup. this is what i am considering for my n/a build if i dont turbo it.
bottom end:
mwr billet rods
mwr bearings
lightened 1zz crank
darton sleeves
weisco pistons (82mm / 12 - 12.5:1 cr)
arp head studs
arp main studs
new toyota oil pump with circutwerx gears
moroso oil pan
head:
crower stage 3 cams
crower springs and retainers
mwr valves and seals
head porting will be done by my self. i have done a few heads before with great results. so this should not be a problem.
induction will consist of a modified manifold turned into an adapter for a set of blacktop 20v throttles with shorter pass racing stack.
fuel will come from a 255lph pump up the stock lines to a mwr fuel rail to a set of 450cc injectors.
exhaust will be a long tube 4-1 header with true merged collector and anti reversion cone expelling hot exhaust gases into a 2.5in header back system.
i also plan to keep my current nitrous system but convert it to a direct port
the brains behind this before as i said will be a megasquirt 1 v3.0.
^^^ That's a nice list! A rough guesstimate is about $8000-$9000 just in parts, not including any fabrication or tuning. Might have $15K+ into this easily - for a big power N/A application. But like they say, you have pay to play.
Where are you getting the 12-12.5 CR pistons in a 82mm size - the highest I've seen is 11.0 CR in stock? Going to shave down the head a bit to get the increase in CR?
^^^ That's a nice list! A rough guesstimate is about $8000-$9000 just in parts, not including any fabrication or tuning. Might have $15K+ into this easily - for a big power N/A application. But like they say, you have pay to play.
Where are you getting the 12-12.5 CR pistons in a 82mm size - the highest I've seen is 11.0 CR in stock? Going to shave down the head a bit to get the increase in CR?
the pistons will be coming from monkey wrench. you can call them hand custom order pistons in desired cr ratios. i dont plan on shaving the head at all. last time i priced everything out it was going to be about 3400 for most the parts minus the crank, and itbs. i also do my own assembly and have a very reputable shop locally i will have do the sleeving (ERL). in all honesty im only shooting for 200 hp na. thats if i descide to stay na. i still have not made up my mind and untill that point i will focus on other aspects of the car. hopefully one day it will be done so i can move on to my other project.
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