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Old 09-04-2009, 07:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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more powerful, but cheap motor swap in 98 corolla

Okay, so i have a 98 corolla le and me and my friend were thinking about doing a motor swap in my 98. we were considering a 4cylndr tacoma motor, for more torque, and it's inexpensive (my friend has a work shop where he can do anything with a car, no mechanic needed, he builds muscel cars)

but i didn't know if i could find a different motor with more power and that is not so expensive as let's say a 2zz.

any ideas? the reason's why i'm doing this to my car is just for fun really. i mean i'm not made of money, and don't plan on getting a car for awhile so i'm just messing with it, plus i've taken it out for rally and more torque would be great
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i don't think you'll have an easy time fitting a RWD engine into a FWD car...
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That would be awesome, I mean the corolla is already a road legal race car, putting even more power and more torque of a truck engine in it would make it unbeatable, not to mention I bet the swap would be super cheap and easy.

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wow... i'm speechless... do you have any idea what you are talking about?

i agree with bitter, the you'll have some hard time with the taco engine since it's RWD, not only you have to turn the engine 90 degrees, you also have to think about how the transmission is going to work. the RWD tranny will not fit under the hood of a FWD car.

it'll most likely end up costing more if not same as the 2zz swap. IMO, if you want high torque, a camery V6 or I4 swap might be easier than the taco engine (not easy, but easier).
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if you want torque 2azfe ftw
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wow... i'm speechless... do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Of course I know what I'm talking about, I've been reading these forums and taking notes.
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Okay, so i have a 98 corolla le and me and my friend were thinking about doing a motor swap in my 98. we were considering a 4cylndr tacoma motor, for more torque, and it's inexpensive (my friend has a work shop where he can do anything with a car, no mechanic needed, he builds muscel cars)

but i didn't know if i could find a different motor with more power and that is not so expensive as let's say a 2zz.

any ideas? the reason's why i'm doing this to my car is just for fun really. i mean i'm not made of money, and don't plan on getting a car for awhile so i'm just messing with it, plus i've taken it out for rally and more torque would be great
corolla's dont need torque. they need high rpm and 6 gears. like a 2zzge or a 4age 20 blacktop. the blacktop would be a bit heavier, but shouldnt be too hard of a swap since 3 out of 4 mounts line up, and it uses the same axle splines. then you would only need a set of stacks like pass racing or t3, nice exhaust system, and you would be good to go.
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you guys are right, it didn't cross my mind the whole fwd rwd delima. sorry bout that. it was just a thought, i looked into blacktops and such but didn't have the money. as for putting it in, it'll be no problem because we have a shop, just no motor.

i'm not seriously considering putting one in, i wanted to know the possibilities of it, cause maybe one day i'll actually go through with it.

thank you all for the help,
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Of course I know what I'm talking about, I've been reading these forums and taking notes.
then please go back to your note-taking, because you are clueless
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you guys are right, it didn't cross my mind the whole fwd rwd delima. sorry bout that. it was just a thought, i looked into blacktops and such but didn't have the money. as for putting it in, it'll be no problem because we have a shop, just no motor.

i'm not seriously considering putting one in, i wanted to know the possibilities of it, cause maybe one day i'll actually go through with it.

thank you all for the help,
if you want all motor goodness, then the blacktop or 2zzge is for you, if you want a rowdy as hell turbo car, then look into a silvertop or build the 1zz and boost it.
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you guys are right, it didn't cross my mind the whole fwd rwd delima. sorry bout that. it was just a thought, i looked into blacktops and such but didn't have the money. as for putting it in, it'll be no problem because we have a shop, just no motor.

i'm not seriously considering putting one in, i wanted to know the possibilities of it, cause maybe one day i'll actually go through with it.

thank you all for the help,
even the 20V 4A-GE will require a good amount of modification, since 8th gen corolla does not use A series engine anymore. if 4A-GE is your goal, it would go into a 7th gen much easier than a 8th gen since it used 4A-FE and 7A-FE.

on the other hand 2zz-ge in a 8th gen body does give the car a good amount of potential in performance, and it has been done before. the only thing is that it's not cheap, and not really a job for a home mechanic (re-pin harness, fabrication, etc), unless you are that good.

i hate to be the one to point it out, but most of the people on this forum has been living with this fact for a while now. the 8th gen corolla doesn't have that much potential in speed and performance, sure the usual I-H-E apply, but it's just an econ-box that gets you from point A to point B with the least amount of gas possible, not as fast as possible.

if you are serious about performance, i suggest you pick another car as your base.
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even the 20V 4A-GE will require a good amount of modification, since 8th gen corolla does not use A series engine anymore. if 4A-GE is your goal, it would go into a 7th gen much easier than a 8th gen since it used 4A-FE and 7A-FE.

on the other hand 2zz-ge in a 8th gen body does give the car a good amount of potential in performance, and it has been done before. the only thing is that it's not cheap, and not really a job for a home mechanic (re-pin harness, fabrication, etc), unless you are that good.

i hate to be the one to point it out, but most of the people on this forum has been living with this fact for a while now. the 8th gen corolla doesn't have that much potential in speed and performance, sure the usual I-H-E apply, but it's just an econ-box that gets you from point A to point B with the least amount of gas possible, not as fast as possible.

if you are serious about performance, i suggest you pick another car as your base.
how can the 4age require extensive modifications if 3 out of the 4 mounts line up? the only mount that would have to be fabbed would be the pass side engine mount, and then i would adapt the 20v to the stock 1zz mount. other than that it should be a bolt in affair, with a little bit of wiring to be done. remember toyota just changed the bell housing mating flange for the 1zz but the mount locations are in identical spots. not to mention the 110/111 chassis housed 4a's in the rest of the world.

im just not seeing how it would be such a hard swap? has someone tried it? if so could you please provide a link?
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It seems that huangxin is the poor note taker, unless you have done a 20v swap yourself. Because I know three people who have put JDM 20v in their fwd corolla's. They all have 7th gens but according to my friend who actually did it at his own house, the 7th gen, 8th gen there is no big diffrence. JUst some stuff might not match up on a 8th gen but it's not so hard that you should buy another car.

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It seems that huangxin is the poor note taker, unless you have done a 20v swap yourself. Because I know three people who have put JDM 20v in their fwd corolla's. They all have 7th gens but according to my friend who actually did it at his own house, the 7th gen, 8th gen there is no big diffrence. JUst some stuff might not match up on a 8th gen but it's not so hard that you should buy another car.

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Back off that Corolla thread, please. You are being way too aggressive. Let the kid do what he wants.

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how can the 4age require extensive modifications if 3 out of the 4 mounts line up? the only mount that would have to be fabbed would be the pass side engine mount, and then i would adapt the 20v to the stock 1zz mount. other than that it should be a bolt in affair, with a little bit of wiring to be done. remember toyota just changed the bell housing mating flange for the 1zz but the mount locations are in identical spots. not to mention the 110/111 chassis housed 4a's in the rest of the world.

im just not seeing how it would be such a hard swap? has someone tried it? if so could you please provide a link?
Back off that Corolla thread, please. You are being way too aggressive. Let the kid do what he wants.

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you guys are right, it didn't cross my mind the whole fwd rwd delima. sorry bout that. it was just a thought, i looked into blacktops and such but didn't have the money. as for putting it in, it'll be no problem because we have a shop, just no motor.

i'm not seriously considering putting one in, i wanted to know the possibilities of it, cause maybe one day i'll actually go through with it.

thank you all for the help,
Glad to hear that you were given all the required information to make an informed decision.

This thread will now be closed since it's going off topic.
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