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Old 09-07-2009, 08:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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tires rubbing on struts.... suggestions

ok so i finished trickin out my 240sx. so on to my corolla

i had some kyowa KR316's wheels from an old 240 i had. and decided to slap those onto the corolla. now i know OEM wheel size is 14 and these are 16. i went and checked to see if they would "fit" and they looked like it.

well i went to go test them out and everything went fine. except when i hit a pot hole or make hard turns the tires rub, my guess is on the bottom spring mount on my rear strut.


so how many of you run bigger wheels and tires on your rolla and how did you solve the rubbing problem.

i sorta want to keep my current Kuhmo ASX's i have now(they are brand new) and i dont have alot of money to buy even lower profile tires.

offset of the wheels is +38 if that helps and the wheels is 7'' across
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what size tire are you using now and what size was stock?
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what size tire are you using now and what size was stock?
mmm good point i left that out. lemme get the speqs for you guys.

would running spacer solve my problem. it solves problems on my nissan.
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ok. my old tires are 185/65/r14'ss

the new ones are 205/50/r16's
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What's your suspension setup:?

You would have to dial in some negative camber to tuck the wheels in properly.

If that fails, then you're pretty much SOL.
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stock suspension. struts ect
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ok. my old tires are 185/65/r14'ss

the new ones are 205/50/r16's
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile Difference
185/65-14 4.7in 11.7in 23.5in 73.7in 859 0.0%
205/50-16 4.0in 12.0in 24.1in 75.6in 838 2.6%
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Warning, embedded Java app (that makes my browser crash).

http://www.tiresizecalculator.info/ does the same thing with lightweight Javascript.
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if it were rubbing on the strut it would be constant. I'm running 215s, and had some issues rubbing on the fender, I'm guessing with the offset and the width you are rubbing on the fenders also. if it's just the backs, youtube fender rolling, and you will see a number of ways to address the issue, it's pretty easy, and it doesn't sound like your rubbing is all that bad, so a mild roll would probably do the deed. if you have any fat friends, have them sit on the trunk and it will help you to see where the tire is hitting.
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if it were rubbing on the strut it would be constant. I'm running 215s, and had some issues rubbing on the fender, I'm guessing with the offset and the width you are rubbing on the fenders also. if it's just the backs, youtube fender rolling, and you will see a number of ways to address the issue, it's pretty easy, and it doesn't sound like your rubbing is all that bad, so a mild roll would probably do the deed. if you have any fat friends, have them sit on the trunk and it will help you to see where the tire is hitting.
the wheel is hitting the lip of the fender (same issue and i got rid of my 205's for 195's and i still get it!.) fender rolling will be youtube'd
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Warning, embedded Java app (that makes my browser crash).

http://www.tiresizecalculator.info/ does the same thing with lightweight Javascript.
Upgrade your Java... there's been like 50updates in the last few months, mine used to crash on some stuff and I've noticed now since maybe 10updates ago it doesn't.

Back on topic... 205/50-16s???? sounds like the tires are too big, it also may have to do with the offset on these wheels, what's the offset on the OEM wheels?
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A 205/45R16 tire would help, the 50-series tire is hair tall. Also varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. I had some Yokohamas in a 205/45R16 that rubbed the top of the fender liner and touched the rear trim by the mudflap on slight bumps. Swapped to a Kuhmo 204/45R16 - no more rubbing, unless I hit a big bump. Turns out - the Kuhmos were about 1/8" narrower than the Yokohamas

As for wheel offsets - Toyota spec'd wheels up to 7" in width and offsets from 38mm-45mm to fit without clearance issues. Of course, your mileage may vary.

Since you want to keep the tires - as mentioned above, probably have to adjust camber to tuck the wheel in and/or roll the fender lip + trim plastic bits to make the tire fit.
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Back on topic... 205/50-16s???? sounds like the tires are too big, it also may have to do with the offset on these wheels, what's the offset on the OEM wheels?
Should be +45 IIRC.

It's definitely a tire problem, but the cheapest remedy would be to get an alignment shop to make adjustments for more negative camber.

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I'm no wheel and tire expert. I heard a few people using those coil spring spacers. you could probably pick some up at your local auto parts store for 20 bucks.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/Coil-Springs/GP_2005889_N_111+2001+200729273+600003409_10101.jc w
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I'm no wheel and tire expert. I heard a few people using those coil spring spacers. you could probably pick some up at your local auto parts store for 20 bucks.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/Coil-Springs/GP_2005889_N_111+2001+200729273+600003409_10101.jc w
I don't see how installing those will help remedy the problem.... those are only good for spring sag.

Rubbing on struts is caused by the angle at which the wheels and tires are mounted. Like I already said twice before, the only way to change or help the problem is to dial in negative camber so that the wheels can clear the struts and the fender properly.
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