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Old 11-06-2009, 05:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all, the reason I'm starting this thread because my driver side is sagging forward. I personally think my suspension is shot since its stock and has ~100K miles on them. When I turn right(putting the weight to the left) my side dips down but when I turn left(putting the weight to the right) it seems more stable.

My question is would Tokico blues be a better choice or KYB's? Also while I'm changing out the struts I might as well change out the springs. I looked at shox.com and they offer H&R springs with the Tokico Blues. How are H&R springs compared to Tein H techs or even Vogtland springs? I don't want a low drop because I usually have passengers inside my vehicle. I live in New York, so there is a lot of potholes and bumps. What would be good that able to give me and my passengers a comfortable ride?
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First of all, the reason I'm starting this thread because my driver side is sagging forward. I personally think my suspension is shot since its stock and has ~100K miles on them. When I turn right(putting the weight to the left) my side dips down but when I turn left(putting the weight to the right) it seems more stable.

My question is would Tokico blues be a better choice or KYB's? Also while I'm changing out the struts I might as well change out the springs. I looked at shox.com and they offer H&R springs with the Tokico Blues. How are H&R springs compared to Tein H techs or even Vogtland springs? I don't want a low drop because I usually have passengers inside my vehicle. I live in New York, so there is a lot of potholes and bumps. What would be good that able to give me and my passengers a comfortable ride?

IME, if you're looking for a comfortable ride and returning the vehicle to stock feel, KYB AGX struts and a non-performance spring is your best bet. Even the Tein H-techs lower the car about an inch, and make pot holes and crappy roads significantly rougher. They're great on smooth pavement and all, but Boston has some mine-field roads too, and I kinda wish I went with new OEM springs, or an OEM equivalent.
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If the struts are stiffer do you feel the road more?! or is it the other way around?
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First of all, the reason I'm starting this thread because my driver side is sagging forward. I personally think my suspension is shot since its stock and has ~100K miles on them. When I turn right(putting the weight to the left) my side dips down but when I turn left(putting the weight to the right) it seems more stable.

My question is would Tokico blues be a better choice or KYB's? Also while I'm changing out the struts I might as well change out the springs. I looked at shox.com and they offer H&R springs with the Tokico Blues. How are H&R springs compared to Tein H techs or even Vogtland springs? I don't want a low drop because I usually have passengers inside my vehicle. I live in New York, so there is a lot of potholes and bumps. What would be good that able to give me and my passengers a comfortable ride?
If you want ride comfort, get the KYB GR2's.

H&R's are better than those other two companies you listed IMO.


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IME, if you're looking for a comfortable ride and returning the vehicle to stock feel, KYB AGX struts and a non-performance spring is your best bet. Even the Tein H-techs lower the car about an inch, and make pot holes and crappy roads significantly rougher. They're great on smooth pavement and all, but Boston has some mine-field roads too, and I kinda wish I went with new OEM springs, or an OEM equivalent.
KYB doesn't make an AGX shock application for this generation of Corolla.

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If the struts are stiffer do you feel the road more?! or is it the other way around?
Road feel is determined by a large number of different factors. Shock dampening ability is only one of them. Another major determinant is the spring rate.
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hmm ... I guess the best way to find out how they feel is when I order them. I'll use the Tokico and the H&R springs. gotta wait for my next paycheck to have enough for the springs and struts at the same time.
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Tokico's are a bit stiffer than KYBs, but they still provide good ride comfort.

Most lowering springs today use progressive spring rates, so you should be okay.
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KYB doesn't make an AGX shock application for this generation of Corolla.
GR-2, I mixed up their OEM replacement and their performance variant. It's even in my sig, damn I'm dumb
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First of all, the reason I'm starting this thread because my driver side is sagging forward. I personally think my suspension is shot since its stock and has ~100K miles on them. When I turn right(putting the weight to the left) my side dips down but when I turn left(putting the weight to the right) it seems more stable.

My question is would Tokico blues be a better choice or KYB's? Also while I'm changing out the struts I might as well change out the springs. I looked at shox.com and they offer H&R springs with the Tokico Blues. How are H&R springs compared to Tein H techs or even Vogtland springs? I don't want a low drop because I usually have passengers inside my vehicle. I live in New York, so there is a lot of potholes and bumps. What would be good that able to give me and my passengers a comfortable ride?
I have Tokico Blues and Tein H techs in my type-S right now and have had them for about 50k+ miles now... they do just fine in Georgia streets for me and corner very well too. Response has been good but I think its time to get another set in... starting to feel squishy for my taste... but even while I'm going 90+ mph down the interstate (almost daily), there is a very minor "floating" feel but I still feel the road under me quite well.
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I have Tokico Blues and Tein H techs in my type-S right now and have had them for about 50k+ miles now... they do just fine in Georgia streets for me and corner very well too. Response has been good but I think its time to get another set in... starting to feel squishy for my taste... but even while I'm going 90+ mph down the interstate (almost daily), there is a very minor "floating" feel but I still feel the road under me quite well.
Please don't call it that... it's a Corolla S.

The Type-S moniker belongs on Acuras cars.
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Well, I'm just waiting for my next paycheck so I don't go overlimit. Hate it when I miscalculate and go over the limit.
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