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Old 11-28-2009, 01:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm thinking of getting a Corolla...

Hey guys, it's been a while since I haven't been on here. Last I was here, I was looking for an MR2 and ended up with something completely different that wasn't Toyota related. Now I'm back, this time thinking of purchasing a cheap on gas and reliable way of transportation. I'm considering the '93 to '00 year range. I'm aware it's two different generations (although aside the engine, I'm not sure what changed...) and I don't know if I should post this in both generation sections' or not.

Anyway, I know nothing of the Corolla. I'm looking for a 5 speed manual transmission and aside the engine difference, I don't know what are the main differences. Now also, which gen is the best... from what I gathered, the 8th one would be better, correct? Lighter engine, less potential damage with a timing chain rather than belt, etc. I don't think I'll get the one with the vvti as I don't see many for sale around here but hey, you guys could tell me about it too!

Basically, I've been reading up on Wiki about the car but I'd also like some real feedback. Also, what's a decent ballpark price for this gen... and, how safe of a car is it crash wise? I understand it's a small car but does the 8th gen fend well? I saw the crash rating and they didn't seem too inspiring, especially with the foot/leg thing.

AND... what do I check on the car? Any weak points of the engine or body? Rust perhaps? I heard something about oil issues on this gen.. oil pump or rings or whatnot? Can anyone enlighten me? Do they have a specific failure for either engines?

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Old 11-28-2009, 01:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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8th Gen corollas the 98 and 99 ones without VVTI i like. They do burn oil, but if you constantly check your oil and top it up you will have that engine running for a long time, or you can make the oil scraper holes on the piston a bigger diameter... also drive the engine hard as it prevents carbon build up and use zmax in it aswell. Ive only had one problem, and it was tonight Engine Died
thats it, ive had my car for quite a few years now and i drive it hard!! i would definitly keep buying corollas because they are just awesome and small but big inside lol..they have some power too. you will not damage the engine if your timing chain breaks, the valves clear the pistons, this is not a high compression engine, so you have nothing to worry about there. this is only for the 98 and 99 models as much as i know, i would think it would be the same for the newer engines with vvti aswell. I have never had a problem with running gear (steering linkages, ball joints, axles, bearings, etc etc) its a tough car, so no weak points. and i find that the only way you can kill this engine is by starving it from oil. it will go and go till it seizes. What else do you want to know? ask away.
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Fergi, Nice summary. Zmax though was brought into court in the US. See Bobstheoilguy site under oil additives.

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Any small car is going to have the issue of safety when it comes to crumple zones around the legs and feet. If you're set on the 8th gen, then get a 2001-2002 model, seems to be less problems with oil burning there. My uncle had a 1998 LE and wrote it off in a bad accident a few months ago, he walked away from it completely fine.

If you want a 7th gen, then get a 93-94 LE.

Don't use Zmax. It's complete snake oil, doesn't do anything it claims.
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you will not damage the engine if your timing chain breaks, the valves clear the pistons, this is not a high compression engine, so you have nothing to worry about there.
CORRECTION.. the piston tops have grooves on the intake side just in case the chain breaks so it doesnt hit the valves...however, the other side of the piston at a higher RPM the exhaust valves WILL hit the pistons and you will bend them, if your chain breaks stop immediately lol. Sorry for the misleading info.
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CORRECTION.. the piston tops have grooves on the intake side just in case the chain breaks so it doesnt hit the valves...however, the other side of the piston at a higher RPM the exhaust valves WILL hit the pistons and you will bend them, if your chain breaks stop immediately lol. Sorry for the misleading info.
No offence my friend but IIRC you are incorrect. The 1ZZ-fe is a non-interference engine. You would have to drop a valve or snap a rod to have a valve hit the piston top. The shape of the piston top is designed to optimize squish which makes for the most efficient combustion.

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you will not damage the engine if your timing chain breaks, the valves clear the pistons,
You were right the first time.

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this is not a high compression engine, so you have nothing to worry about there.
"High" of course is a relative term, nontheless under most peoples definitions it IS high compression (not that it's a problem). That is one of the defining characteristics of the 1ZZ. It has 10:1 compression where as the previous gen is 9-something. Toyota released a great engineering write-up on the 1zz when it came out you should check it out I think it is linked on this site somwhere.


OP: I reccomend the 01-02 of course I am biased I have an 01 S 5-speed. Mine does use a little oil but it is getting better with good maintenance. 110,000 miles running strong!
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No offence my friend but IIRC you are incorrect. The 1ZZ-fe is a non-interference engine. You would have to drop a valve or snap a rod to have a valve hit the piston top. The shape of the piston top is designed to optimize squish which makes for the most efficient combustion.


You were right the first time.



"High" of course is a relative term, nontheless under most peoples definitions it IS high compression (not that it's a problem). That is one of the defining characteristics of the 1ZZ. It has 10:1 compression where as the previous gen is 9-something. Toyota released a great engineering write-up on the 1zz when it came out you should check it out I think it is linked on this site somwhere.


OP: I reccomend the 01-02 of course I am biased I have an 01 S 5-speed. Mine does use a little oil but it is getting better with good maintenance. 110,000 miles running strong!
hahha your wrong about it being a non zero tolerance engine...because my harmonic balancer(crank pulley) fell off with the pin that turns the timing chain in sequence with the crank and therefore the cams stopped turning and the pistons hit all of the exhaust valves and bent them all. the intake valves are okay.
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