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Old 01-01-2010, 09:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Philips Extreme Power headlights

So I just purchased them and installed them today. They are bright, but not white. Are they suppose to be like that? Before I bought them, I did some research and most pictures and videos I've seen were white. Can someone who has them confirm this?
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Yep, they're like that. Definitely one of the brightest halogens out there.

The white in the pictures can be explained by the differences in each cameras white balance settings.
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they're white on my car, maybe your headlights are hazed. i see no blue or other colors, just pure bright white light. they're so intense with the stock projectors on my celi that i can STILL see the projectors hot-spots when the highbeams are on (if i'm pointed at a wall).


I manually set my white balance and exposure till it looked like it did to my eyes, this is how they look.

Heres a review of the H4 bulbs in a reflector housing
http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=261584
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Figured there was enough info to start a thread by itself dedicated to these tests. To start, they were performed on a 93 MR2 which uses H4 bulbs in 6054 square reflector housings (Autopal in this test). H7s will provide more light with a wider, more even beam.


THE BULB

The previous highest output of an H4 bulb (+50% type) was rated at 107 between 50-75m (Halfords Super Brilliance, followed closely by Philips GT150 Power2Night at 102, and Philips Vision Plus at 98). The new Philips X-treme Power H4 (+80%) was rated at an amazing 146, and won the Accessory Of The Year award from Auto Express (a UK company that's done many bulb tests in the past). All bulbs were rated at 55W, safe for OEM applications.

Philips X-treme Power is a new type of halogen bulb, HIR (Halogen Infrared Reflecting). That means it has a reflective coating that makes use of wasted infrared light, reflecting it back at the filament and making it burn more efficiently, allowing more light output than any standard halogen/"xenon" halogen before it (especially the ones with colored coatings). The bulb also has a refined design, with smaller glass casing for higher pressure and improved filament geometry (placing of the filament(s) in relation to the reflector/projector, where most bulbs fail). This captures much of the stray light of previous designs and directs it back at the road where it belongs. It's unconfirmed, but the thin blue strip seems to be for short range lighting due to its position, while medium and long range get the full illumination of the clear portion. The difference in color isn't noticeable on the road.

Standard H4 design vs X-treme Power H4



THE TESTS

The first set of pics is lighting on the road. Unfortunately, there weren't any dark roads around here safe enough to stop on to do this, so I found the least lit place in my development I could. Doesn't effectively show the difference in distance due to the dirt mound, but the difference in illumination says it all.

Note: due to the limitations of cameras, the exposure in all of these pics has been set as high as possible before clipping, so the photos aren't accurate representation of the actual illumination you'll see (which is much brighter). It's just enough light to prevent different parts of the beam from being washed out. All photos in each set were taken with the same exposure and white balance settings for the most accurate results.

(darker = more light on inverted images)


Now here are some of the usual light-on-garage-door pics. The middle one also compares the difference between these lights and 03 Nissan Maxima D2R HIDs (yes, the camera made the light much bluer than it is).



As you can see, the beam is defintely whiter than the regular bulb, and the coverage of intense light is broader, almost in a rectangular shape vs the regular semi-circle, with a sharper cutoff. Distance can't be shown in these pics, but from seeing how much more concentrated the center of the beam is, you can tell that the official tests should be right on the money. I didn't include high beam tests, since the highs of the regular bulbs were already satisfactory.

One thing I did notice is that when I had the regular bulbs in, for some reason, the left shoulder of the road always seemed more illuminated than the right, even though the lights are focused slightly towards the right. With just one X-treme Power bulb in on the right, the right shoulder is lit up almost twice as much as before, and much better than the left. Definitely due to the wider area of coverage these bulbs create.


THE VERDICT

All in all, these bulbs are worth more than the $50 or less you'll find them for (check eBay often), especially if you're coming from white/blue/purple coated bulbs. Not to mention Philips has shown an excellent reliability record with their lighting equipment vs other brands. They're the closest yet you'll get to HIDs, but unlike aftermarket HIDs, they're DOT and ECE approved.
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No haze on my headlights. They are definitely yellow on on my car. I checked the bulb before I installed it and they are definitely the extreme power +80.....I got them from suvlights.com Wheredid you get yours?
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now I wonder if the bulbs sold in euro makes any difference. The packaging are different and SUVlights.com has them listed as "clear" The company is based in CA. Can anyone confirm who bought the lights from euro vs from suvlights.com?
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now I wonder if the bulbs sold in euro makes any difference. The packaging are different and SUVlights.com has them listed as "clear" The company is based in CA. Can anyone confirm who bought the lights from euro vs from suvlights.com?
i got mine from a seller on ebay in Germany and my return address on the box was from Lithuania.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=290318794806
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No haze on my headlights. They are definitely yellow on on my car. I checked the bulb before I installed it and they are definitely the extreme power +80.....I got them from suvlights.com Wheredid you get yours?
Could be bad wiring causing a voltage drop. Check voltage drop in accordance with the instructions here:

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HOW TO MEASURE YOUR VOLTAGE DROP
This test must be made with the lamps switched on and all bulbs connected, so you may have to work to get access to the correct bulb terminal. In some cases, it may be easiest to remove the bulb from the headlamp and (carefully) operate it outside the headlamp with your voltmeter connected. Or, you can "backprobe" the headlamp socket.
Connect the positive (red) test lead of a voltmeter to the car battery positive (+) terminal, and the negative (black) test lead to the + terminal of whichever headlamp filament (beam) you're testing -- use the bulb farthest away from the battery. Your voltmeter will give a direct reading of the voltage drop. Write it down.
Then, connect the positive (red) voltmeter lead to the ground terminal of the headlamp bulb, and the negative voltmeter lead to the negative (-) terminal of the battery. Your voltmeter will again give a direct reading of the voltage drop. Write it down. Add the two voltage drop figures obtained, and this is the total circuit voltage drop.
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