Hey everyone, ive been looking into a nice DD and a Corolla seems to fit the bill.
Gets good mileage, sedan, and good looking. Now, some questions
-Rarity of a manual? I know the early S were fairly rare already...
-Main difference between 98-00 from 01-02? I know the front end, rear end and VVTi were some of them.
-Has anyone used them for Autocross, a friend of mine used one for a bit, just seeing others input.
Pricing, The average I have seen (on CL) is 2500 for 99s with 100K+
Hoping to pick one up before the Autocross season starts, going to do Konis, springs, rear sway, 15s with 195/45 Azenis 615, DIY CAI, and 2.25 exhaust. Just the basic upgrades for a better ride and suspension.
Also, I rear that the axles are the same for auto and manual, Does this mean all I need to do is find a 5SP candidate and swap? (Along with the necessary items and the addition of tricking the ECU of course.)
You already have the main differences between the 8th and 8.5 gen. (vvti , which gives your some extra HP and body looks)
I have autocrossed mine, and I did fine. I have a strut bar, pair of hotchkiss sway bars, and fender braces. I won first in the novice class.
The car stock has alot of body roll, but it looks like you have a plan already to control that, so you should be good to go. (be careful about the rear sway bar, as you need to drop the gas tank a bit to do it.)
The car is also very good as a DD. I would try to get a 8.5 gen, as they seem to have less issues with oil burning than the earlier years.
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Wait, I was reading around and it seems that the 8.5 are the ones with oil issues?
I plan on doing basic upgrades and beefing up the suspension to reduce the body roll issue. I found a 99 base with automatic and 125K, he is asking 2350 for it. Its priced "fair" under KBB.
I think I will hold out a little longer to find hopefully (wishing very very hard) to find a base model with a 5sp.
the engine had different pistons put in in the 9th gen 1zz, so any 8th gen you get has a higher possibility of oil burn, but its not like a guarantee. And they changed to vvti in the 2000 model, the 2000 is the oddball since it has the engine of the 2001 and the body of the 1999. the rear end of the 8.5 gen is only different because of the taillights, theres no body style differences except the front bumper. Also for tires you might want to go 195/50/15, thats what i have. Im not going bigger than 2.25 on the exhaust, i would suggest u do the same, otherwise youll lose alot of low end. Im probably going 2 inch, which isnt a big step up from 1.75, but when you factor in the mandrel bending, there should be a good amount of flow without sacrificing power. And btw I think you mean CE not CL
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the engine had different pistons put in in the 9th gen 1zz, so any 8th gen you get has a higher possibility of oil burn, but its not like a guarantee. And they changed to vvti in the 2000 model, the 2000 is the oddball since it has the engine of the 2001 and the body of the 1999. the rear end of the 8.5 gen is only different because of the taillights, theres no body style differences except the front bumper. Also for tires you might want to go 195/50/15, thats what i have. Im not going bigger than 2.25 on the exhaust, i would suggest u do the same, otherwise youll lose alot of low end. Im probably going 2 inch, which isnt a big step up from 1.75, but when you factor in the mandrel bending, there should be a good amount of flow without sacrificing power. And btw I think you mean CE not CL
no, go with atleast a 2.25. 2.5in is optimum for n/a. remember that the 1zz is a long stroke engine. 91.5mm stroke. it will have low end, well as much as a 1.8 can have, regardless of exhaust size. most people claim low end losses because the high end gains so much, but 9 times out of 10 the dyno proves that no low end is lost.
show me the dyno then, lol. Im not calling you a liar or anything, but one person saying one thing against like 15 means i gotta see evidence to convince me
Quick question fellas, 99 DX are those 3SP or 4SP automatic? Theres one for sale for 1800, 125K, Stripper Model, Auto. I think the price is good, it booked at 2300.
Thanks for the quick reply, I was guessing that the DX is base, whatever the base was in 99. DX came to mind because of the older corollas. So VE comes with the 3SP auto. Anything really bad with the 3SP for a DD?
Thanks for the quick reply, I was guessing that the DX is base, whatever the base was in 99. DX came to mind because of the older corollas. So VE comes with the 3SP auto. Anything really bad with the 3SP for a DD?
RPM are very high at highway speeds (65+) on the 3sp. If you do mostly interstate driving I would look for a 4sp . Mileage is still good on the 3sp, but the highway really wears the engine down. Of course if you do a lot of street driving, you might as well look for a manual.
show me the dyno then, lol. Im not calling you a liar or anything, but one person saying one thing against like 15 means i gotta see evidence to convince me
this isnt a 1zz, nor comparable. its a k20 with nothing more than an ecu header and a 3in exhaust. if you read and play attention to the graphs, it actually gained low end with the 3in. it proves my point. the butt dynos are inaccurate and a true dyno will never lie.
the upper dyno is just the header and a before / after dyno of a mugen ecu.
the lower dyno is with the same header/ecu and a before / after dyno of the 3in. they also changed ecus to a hondata kpro. but compare the lines to the previous dyno. there is a gain.
hm, thats interesting. I know that those honda engines respond way better to intake and exhaust mods than the 1zz does, but i can imagine there has to still be a gain for us as well
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