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Old 02-22-2010, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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since the original HID thread was locked, i still have a question. with the 02 corolla it has 9006(low) and 9005(high) bulbs. this is where im not positive. if i was to change both bulbs to 4300k, would the low and high beams be the same brightness? or since the 9005 bulb is specifically for high beams will the bulb be brighter while still being 4300k?
sorry if its a dumb question im just unsure so i want to check before i do anything.

and yes, i know the "dangers" and illegalness blah blah about HIDs i dont need anyone informing me of what i already know.
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Old 02-22-2010, 06:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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haha, yeah blah blah blah.

To answer your q, the HIDs will be the same brightness. They are both ~35 watts.

Yeah, the stock halogen bulb was brighter by 10 watts in the high beam. But not with the HIDs.

4300K is a great choice.... that will look best on your red rolla imo, and be brightest with little glare.

However, you will have to disable the DRL on the low beam, and HIDs in the high beams are not that great unless you use the high beams for a long time at once.
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i seee true true. i already disabled my auto lights and drls, they drove me crazy parking at beaches at night and such and having to shut off my car to turn the lights off. so much nicer being able to control my lights like normal cars hah. what would you suggest for the brights? maybe stay halogen but just get a brighter bulb? for example this is off of sylvania,

High beam headlamp
9005SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen
9005ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
9005EB EcoBright - Your Environmental Choice
9005XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light
9005CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light
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of all those bulbs, silverstars are the only thing that make any difference... not much though imo. It is possible to boost halogen bulbs, but I don't know much about that.
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im assuming boosting means.. similar to how an hid uses a ballast?
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yeah, it uses a special ballast to boost the voltage higher.
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In my old truck, I had h4 conversion headlights. I installed 90/100 watt bulbs and an h4 wiring upgrade harness. It used relays to direct power straight from the battery to the bulbs, instead of through the switch and everything. It made a big difference, but it was with the high wattage bulbs...
Now, my HID question: My friend has a set of h4 hi/low HIDs in his pickup, and I was impressed with how they worked. Still had a high beam, and no lag! I'm not exactly sure how they work, is anyone else?
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bi xenon can be a hit or miss. he must have gotten a nice package for the high beams to work perfectly without any warm up lag. but how do you come about the halogen upgrades? that would be a nice touch
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Toshiba HIR halogens. Best bulb. Screw Hid's. They throw off fake light and emit a super glare on wet roads. There also awful in snow and rain conditions. I had like 3 sets of them. I actually have a full set i can use on my prizm now but i dont want them. There worthless to me. They stop working suddenly, the ballasts blow. Its just one more thing to break.

The toshibas put out true light and are cheaper, and much easier to install.
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http://hirheadlights.com/
think i might hit this up. matches right up to the 00-02 headlight
what do you guys think?
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^^ yeah, those are one of the halogen alternatives I know is a good idea. That should definitely be better than HIDs.
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Toshiba HIR halogens. Best bulb. Screw Hid's. They throw off fake light and emit a super glare on wet roads. There also awful in snow and rain conditions. I had like 3 sets of them. I actually have a full set i can use on my prizm now but i dont want them. There worthless to me. They stop working suddenly, the ballasts blow. Its just one more thing to break.

The toshibas put out true light and are cheaper, and much easier to install.

hid's are far superior to the toshiba bulbs you listed. if you stick to a set of hid's close to 4300k and/or retrofit to a hid projector then the light output is way better than any halogen bulb can dream of. no glare, no "fake" light.

also i LOL'd pretty hard when that site suggested hid's use more power than halogens. ROFL. my 35 watt plug and play kit runs at 6 amps on start up, and drops to 3 amps once warm, which is only about a second or so. halogens have to run a higher amperage, and higher wattage to equal what a single hid can do.

as for the friend with the truck and the high/low hid kit. its a motorized shield in the headlight that moves to reveal more of the hid bulb to the reflector housing. the light output stays the same and never changes bulbs, just allows more light to be reflected outward.
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High beam headlamp
9005SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen
9005ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
9005EB EcoBright - Your Environmental Choice
9005XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light
9005CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light
Avoid all those Silverstar Ultras with their so called "whitest and brightest" light. They use a blue filter which doesn't ADD blue TO the light, they REMOVE yellow FROM the light, which ultimately REMOVES LIGHT. Also, those things just burn out too quickly. Same for the "cool blue" as far as removing light; I'm not sure if the lifespan is also reduced.

Xtravision is decent, Philips Xtreme Power (not available in 9005, but are in 9006 http://store.candlepower.com/bfcopo90hbpo.html ) are excellent.

You're best off getting Toshiba HIRs. http://store.candlepower.com/hirlighting.html
They come in 9011 and 9012 form factors with very easily modified bases to fit 9005 and 9006 applications. (HIRHeadlights.com also seems to offer the same product. It doesn't matter to me where you get them. I can say I got speedy service from Candlepower Inc, though.)

Candlepower Inc also has an HIR2 from Philips at http://store.candlepower.com/ph3rdge90h.html ; with a 1400 hour lifespan and very tightly controlled light emission to reduce the amount of glare.

Sticking HID bulbs in lamp assemblies not designed for them is ineffective, unsafe, and illegal.

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hid's are far superior to the toshiba bulbs you listed. if you stick to a set of hid's close to 4300k and/or retrofit to a hid projector then the light output is way better than any halogen bulb can dream of. no glare, no "fake" light.

also i LOL'd pretty hard when that site suggested hid's use more power than halogens. ROFL. my 35 watt plug and play kit runs at 6 amps on start up, and drops to 3 amps once warm, which is only about a second or so. halogens have to run a higher amperage, and higher wattage to equal what a single hid can do.

as for the friend with the truck and the high/low hid kit. its a motorized shield in the headlight that moves to reveal more of the hid bulb to the reflector housing. the light output stays the same and never changes bulbs, just allows more light to be reflected outward.


Not really, Not in any way are they FAR superior. I take simplicity, and ease of maintenance into consideration when justifying if something is "far superior" . Hid have ballasts, more wiring, more things that break down over time. Sure the blue light adds a nice touch, but is it needed? No.
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