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azncapcom · 03-09-2010, 10:13 PM

Solved initial problem by buying tuner lug nuts. Now i got a new problem...

vibration at high speeds
low speed its a bit loud but no vibration

will balancing solve this? or is balancing only for low speeds?

fishexpo101 · 03-10-2010, 09:22 AM

^^ Exactly

Something similar along the lines of this:

Most aftermarket wheels will run into this situation - I was fortunate that I got lugs wih all the wheels I've purchased over the years. This may not be the case if you got them second hand or speciality order wheels.

azncapcom · 03-10-2010, 09:52 AM

What size tuner lug nuts do i need that will fit my 8th gen?
and where can i get them?

What is 12X1.25 or 12X1.5? Is the 1.25 and 1.5 the diameter of the lug nut? Whats the 12 for?

fishexpo101 · 03-10-2010, 12:38 PM

Most autoparts stores will carry tuner lugs, you could also order some really nices one online - depends on your budget and what you are looking for. I've seen them run from $20 a set to several hundred for a set. If they are really nice wheels, I'd also recommend going with a locking set - but that is completely up to you.

I believe you'll need a 12mm x 1.5 threaded lugs, can't remember off the top of my head. I'm sure that info was posted on the forums - just search for wheel stud size. Also many parts stores have sample studs on display that you can test thread your existing lug nut on to verify the correct size or a lookup chart.

***PhatRoyale*** · 03-10-2010, 01:08 PM

12 is the nominal outside diameter of the bolt in millimeters

azncapcom · 03-10-2010, 03:12 PM

Just got a set of those exact ones shown in fishexpo's picture. $40 for the set.

Now i encounter another problem... i will likely need to roll my fenders now... the new summer wheels and tires are a bit wider than the old ones... so they stick out the fender a tad bit... =/

How much does it usually cost to roll corolla fenders?

Buurin · 03-10-2010, 08:09 PM

Some of us managed to roll their own with a baseball bat.

Then again there is also a tool for rolling fenders. Renting that could be a few tens of dollars.

That said, if you have to buy tuner lugs and roll fenders, I have the feeling that you're going overboard. What is the wheel's spec?

RoachRolla · 03-10-2010, 08:13 PM

i ended up doing mine with a bat. worked like a charm! Beats paying $70/fender, what a ripoff...
the tires do still occasionally rub but nowhere near like it used to

azncapcom · 03-11-2010, 08:40 AM

Im prob goign to use the baseball bat approach... but now i got another problem...

high speed vibration....
low speed its fine but it still makes alot of noise? just as loud if not louder than my winters?

I was asking the guy at the wheel shop where i bought the tuner lugs about balancing.

He said something about low speed vibration = ?
and high speed vibration = ?

I forget what he said. But balancing the wheels would solve both my problems? no?

all2baka · 03-11-2010, 10:39 AM

I went with brute force using rubber mallets and a heat gun.

fishexpo101 · 03-11-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azncapcom

Im prob goign to use the baseball bat approach... but now i got another problem...

high speed vibration....
low speed its fine but it still makes alot of noise? just as loud if not louder than my winters?

I was asking the guy at the wheel shop where i bought the tuner lugs about balancing.

He said something about low speed vibration = ?
and high speed vibration = ?

I forget what he said. But balancing the wheels would solve both my problems? no?

Low speed vibrations are a function of excessive runout in the tire and/or wheel from:
- bent wheel(s)
- lateral or longitudinal runout in the tire or out of round tire (almost never happens anymore)
- damaged tire
- loose lugs/wrong lugs
- running a hubcentric wheel without the correct hub spacer (actually pretty common)
- faulty hub
- bad wheel bearing

High speec vibrations are more a function of:
- damaged tire tread
- bad tire/incorrectly mounted tire (tire slipped/spun on wheel after mounting)
- bad wheel balance (missing/lost wheel weights)
- excessive wheel weight (add up wheel weight, should be less than 2oz per wheel)

Of course that is a small set of possibilities - could also extend to brakes, suspension issues, wheel clearance, wheel offset, etc. But if the car was running just fine before, and it runs "off" with the new wheels/tires - then it probably has something to due with that set.

fishexpo101 · 03-11-2010, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all2baka

I went with brute force using rubber mallets and a heat gun.

Almost exactly how I did mine - started with a bat to get it into the general shape, then finished with a heatgun to soften the paint slightly and plastic mallets to flatten it out. Also had to trim around the mudflaps, as a portion of it made contact with the tire.

azncapcom · 03-11-2010, 11:28 PM

Im trying the baseball bat... but its not working as well as i thought it would be... the fender is alot tougher than i thought... i am barely bending the fender...

also im worried about the tire... since im using it as leverage and im using ALOT of force to try and bend in the metal part on the bottom of the fender.
The low pro tires almost go completely flat when i put so much force on it...

RoachRolla · 03-12-2010, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azncapcom

Im trying the baseball bat... but its not working as well as i thought it would be... the fender is alot tougher than i thought... i am barely bending the fender...

also im worried about the tire... since im using it as leverage and im using ALOT of force to try and bend in the metal part on the bottom of the fender.
The low pro tires almost go completely flat when i put so much force on it...

same thing happened to me. the tires had a lot of pressure being put on them from the leverage but nothing catastrophic happened. i also noticed that the lip was not being bent in much, but i kept working at it. eventually i had enough of the fender rolling and still didnt notice that much of a difference with the lip. however, when i took the car for a drive, no more rubbing! try it, and see what happens.

all2baka · 03-12-2010, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishexpo101

Almost exactly how I did mine - started with a bat to get it into the general shape, then finished with a heatgun to soften the paint slightly and plastic mallets to flatten it out. Also had to trim around the mudflaps, as a portion of it made contact with the tire.

Did completely with just the heatgun and mallets. Neighbors were probably annoyed by all the noise late at night

I did the exact same with the mudflaps in the rear as that extended section was rubbing the tires.