I am planning a heart transplant for my AE112 Corolla and I would like to use the generation 3 3SGE engine. Does anyone know what engine mountings and gearbox I can use?
^^ umm do you do realise there's a minor flaw in that statement. our cars arent AWD and a transmission/transfer case wont help the OP much.
Sorry I miss read the title I thought it said "AWD" and not "FWD". And yes you're right "our" cars the zze110 are not AWD but there are ae11x found in other demestic markets that come AWD. But this question is about FWD so disregaurd that last post.
Why not go for the 3sgte? WHat's you plans for the 3sge?
I was looking into custom mounts, thanks for the gearbox info Bdub215. I assume it is a 5 speed gearbox, long or short ratio? I always wanted a NA screamer so I opted for the 3sge, I have some individual throttle bodies that is going into the mix with a stand alone management system and a stainless exhaust system. Hope that answers your question Keolaaina.
I was looking into custom mounts, thanks for the gearbox info Bdub215. I assume it is a 5 speed gearbox, long or short ratio? I always wanted a NA screamer so I opted for the 3sge, I have some individual throttle bodies that is going into the mix with a stand alone management system and a stainless exhaust system. Hope that answers your question Keolaaina.
the best option for a n/a screamer would be a 2zzge swap. its as close to a direct bolt in as you will get, except for a 1zz of course. the 2zzge is a great engine capable of 9500+ rpm and can make 250+whp n/a. plus its also lighter than a 3sge would be. its close to the 1zz in weight and size. plus a 6spd close ratio. IMO i think our gen corolla's should have had a xrs option. they would have been some bad ass sleepers.
also, in the end a 3sge swap (stock) vs a 2zz swap (also stock) would be about the same in cost. but the 2zzge would have the advantage of keeping a close to stock weight balance than the 3s would. the only benefit of the 3sge would be in getting a BEAMS engine (197bhp vvti or 207bhp dual vvti). but then the price would raise a bit. but it would only have a bit more torque than the 2zz.
long story short 2zzge > 3sge. but its your car. so the final decision is up to you. also would this be a daily driver?
I was looking into custom mounts, thanks for the gearbox info Bdub215. I assume it is a 5 speed gearbox, long or short ratio? I always wanted a NA screamer so I opted for the 3sge, I have some individual throttle bodies that is going into the mix with a stand alone management system and a stainless exhaust system. Hope that answers your question Keolaaina.
They're both close ratio. The only other box avalible the s51 from the camry is the long ratio fo fuel economy.
I was looking into custom mounts, thanks for the gearbox info Bdub215. I assume it is a 5 speed gearbox, long or short ratio? I always wanted a NA screamer so I opted for the 3sge, I have some individual throttle bodies that is going into the mix with a stand alone management system and a stainless exhaust system. Hope that answers your question Keolaaina.
Yeah thanks, yeah I'd love an NA motor in my Corolla someday, I love the scream of a black top. And with the itb's your 3sge will sound even louder. And I'd go with the 3sge over a 2zzge.
For 1 I've never heard or seen of a zz engine swap into an A engine Corolla, not saying that it hasn't been or can't be done though. But I've seen A engine Corolla's with 3sgte swaps, many infact so a 3sge should not be too difficult.
And 2 I've come across alot more easily obtainable tuning parts for a a 3s engine then a 2zz engine on the internet.
Yeah thanks, yeah I'd love an NA motor in my Corolla someday, I love the scream of a black top. And with the itb's your 3sge will sound even louder. And I'd go with the 3sge over a 2zzge.
For 1 I've never heard or seen of a zz engine swap into an A engine Corolla, not saying that it hasn't been or can't be done though. But I've seen A engine Corolla's with 3sgte swaps, many infact so a 3sge should not be too difficult.
And 2 I've come across alot more easily obtainable tuning parts for a a 3s engine then a 2zz engine on the internet.
I guess you haven't searched hard enough. I've found intakes (ppe, injen), header (ppe little rocket), exhaust(trd, magnaflow) cams (piper, mwr) superchargers ( lotus, greddy) standalone ecu's (PFC, Hydra) intake manifold by dd performance. This is the stuff easily attainable and I've missed alot more then I've named.
I guess you haven't searched hard enough. I've found intakes (ppe, injen), header (ppe little rocket), exhaust(trd, magnaflow) cams (piper, mwr) superchargers ( lotus, greddy) standalone ecu's (PFC, Hydra) intake manifold by dd performance. This is the stuff easily attainable and I've missed alot more then I've named.
OK you got me on that one I guess, but all I was trying to say was that the 3sge first came out in the first AWD Celica, also with the turbo verison, back in 86' so there are more parts for the engine seeing as it's been around for almost 25 years. It's also a better platform in turns of power, the BWTC Carina used an NA 3sge that had 300hp and that's regulation that the cars have only 300hp.
the best option for a n/a screamer would be a 2zzge swap. its as close to a direct bolt in as you will get, except for a 1zz of course. the 2zzge is a great engine capable of 9500+ rpm and can make 250+whp n/a. plus its also lighter than a 3sge would be. its close to the 1zz in weight and size. plus a 6spd close ratio. IMO i think our gen corolla's should have had a xrs option. they would have been some bad ass sleepers.
also, in the end a 3sge swap (stock) vs a 2zz swap (also stock) would be about the same in cost. but the 2zzge would have the advantage of keeping a close to stock weight balance than the 3s would. the only benefit of the 3sge would be in getting a BEAMS engine (197bhp vvti or 207bhp dual vvti). but then the price would raise a bit. but it would only have a bit more torque than the 2zz.
long story short 2zzge > 3sge. but its your car. so the final decision is up to you. also would this be a daily driver?
I spoke to my tuner and we are looking into the 2ZZ-GE, it is a bit difficult to find spares for the 3S-GE in South Africa so it will be either the 2ZZ or a Blacktop, both with ITB's! Keep you posted!
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