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Old 04-25-2010, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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gen 7 help me deside!!!!

OK,here is my problem.

I just saw my old car today.It is a JDM 98 corolla AE110.It came with a stock 5afe engine.the car i learn how 2 drive and had my first drive,first kiss,first date,first race,countless crashes n so many other things. this car belongs to our office now but i was planning to retake it because 4days back i saw a video of a 3SGTE in a tarcel and it blew my mind.

now i was thinking about about swaping my corolla with 3SGTE. I know i can do it cause i have some really very talented people who knows toyotas inside and out. hell one of them even put a toyota 5afe on a honda civic few months back.

but my concerns is that car was hit pretty much times. one time it got hit at over 130kmph with a tree.a head on collision,that was the last crash before i let go the car. that time the chassis bent,went inside alot,radiators,ac,even the engine broke literately. so I dont know if that chassis can take the power and torque of a 3SGTE. i can get most toyota OEM parts of various toyota JDM models,so im planing axles and tranny from camry V6,brakes the biggest one i can find. and for the suspension i was thinking importing TIEN coilovers. But what to do for the chassis strengthening? some sway bars? any other suggestions?? I also wana convert it into a RWD, and later have plans to do some I/E/H..basic tuning/boost control/fuel management updates....i hear those can put the engine to near 320-340bhp mark which seems more than enough for me.

tell me what you guys think?? should i go for it now??or should i just control my feelings and let it go? the car is not mine yet,it belongs to the office now,so if you say it positive then i will talk with the people in-charge and try to strike a deal for the car, hopefully i will get it.

thankx guys for helping out
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OK,here is my problem.

I just saw my old car today.It is a JDM 98 corolla AE110.It came with a stock 5afe engine.the car i learn how 2 drive and had my first drive,first kiss,first date,first race,countless crashes n so many other things. this car belongs to our office now but i was planning to retake it because 4days back i saw a video of a 3SGTE in a tarcel and it blew my mind.

now i was thinking about about swaping my corolla with 3SGTE. I know i can do it cause i have some really very talented people who knows toyotas inside and out. hell one of them even put a toyota 5afe on a honda civic few months back.

but my concerns is that car was hit pretty much times. one time it got hit at over 130kmph with a tree.a head on collision,that was the last crash before i let go the car. that time the chassis bent,went inside alot,radiators,ac,even the engine broke literately. so I dont know if that chassis can take the power and torque of a 3SGTE. i can get most toyota OEM parts of various toyota JDM models,so im planing axles and tranny from camry V6,brakes the biggest one i can find. and for the suspension i was thinking importing TIEN coilovers. But what to do for the chassis strengthening? some sway bars? any other suggestions?? I also wana convert it into a RWD, and later have plans to do some I/E/H..basic tuning/boost control/fuel management updates....i hear those can put the engine to near 320-340bhp mark which seems more than enough for me.

tell me what you guys think?? should i go for it now??or should i just control my feelings and let it go? the car is not mine yet,it belongs to the office now,so if you say it positive then i will talk with the people in-charge and try to strike a deal for the car, hopefully i will get it.

thankx guys for helping out
well it s really up to you man.. its wat ur deepest feelings tell u... if you go for it after looking at the reality of the time and money it would take to do that project then go for it, just make sure you strenghing the chassi really good to handel ur goals for the car, you can ask a member here pnky33 ( pedro ) who has a great corolla puching 300hp and its an auto by the way who knows all the parts to strenghen the chassi so pm him.
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thankx man, you know after i saw it today,it was like a big feeling. all the memories coming back,but the car is in very bad situation now. rust in many places,torn off paint,dead and broken lights,torn off interior. i have to do alot of things,the pulls hard right just before i hit 60kmph.at all time its pulls left,not the tires,may be the chassis bent.

I also dont have much deep pockets.Im just a college student,just bought myself a 92 integra with a high compression b16a and type r cams and ecu in it. its pretty fast,pushing around 180bhp right now. i was thinking about turbo charging that one,but turboing somthing is next to impossible in our country due to lack of aftermarket products. on the other hands its a heaven for toyota. we get many JDM spares. also i taked with the guys at the store,so i can go there,try 4-5 axles and take the one that serves best,yah he will charge 20-30% more to me but atleast i wont have to buy all 5 axles. so that will be a help. also i talked to the mechanic about the mounting and he said it wont be an issue,we'll make our own mounting if needed.

the main things that concern me right now is will i be able to putt those 300wbhp in a FWD and live? All my like i just drove FWDs and i heard they are worst over 200wbhp. I dont know,is that real?? also how to make this broken and bent chassis handle that much power??


a messege to pnky33 ( pedro ) bro,please help me out here,i tried but could not find you,post a reply in my treat so i can PM you or somthing.just help me out and tell me what should i do.
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OK,here is my problem.

I just saw my old car today.It is a JDM 98 corolla AE110.It came with a stock 5afe engine.the car i learn how 2 drive and had my first drive,first kiss,first date,first race,countless crashes n so many other things. this car belongs to our office now but i was planning to retake it because 4days back i saw a video of a 3SGTE in a tarcel and it blew my mind.

now i was thinking about about swaping my corolla with 3SGTE. I know i can do it cause i have some really very talented people who knows toyotas inside and out. hell one of them even put a toyota 5afe on a honda civic few months back.

but my concerns is that car was hit pretty much times. one time it got hit at over 130kmph with a tree.a head on collision,that was the last crash before i let go the car. that time the chassis bent,went inside alot,radiators,ac,even the engine broke literately. so I dont know if that chassis can take the power and torque of a 3SGTE. i can get most toyota OEM parts of various toyota JDM models,so im planing axles and tranny from camry V6,brakes the biggest one i can find. and for the suspension i was thinking importing TIEN coilovers. But what to do for the chassis strengthening? some sway bars? any other suggestions?? I also wana convert it into a RWD, and later have plans to do some I/E/H..basic tuning/boost control/fuel management updates....i hear those can put the engine to near 320-340bhp mark which seems more than enough for me.

tell me what you guys think?? should i go for it now??or should i just control my feelings and let it go? the car is not mine yet,it belongs to the office now,so if you say it positive then i will talk with the people in-charge and try to strike a deal for the car, hopefully i will get it.

thankx guys for helping out
To be honest, I'd start with a different shell. Personally I wouldn't start a project like that with a car that had major structural damage in the past, but if it means that much to you then go for it

As for the 3S-GTE swap, it has been done a few times before so it's definitely possible. You can strengthen the chassis by using Ultra Racing parts, as seen on their website:
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3127

3S-GTE engines have a lot of potential, and the 320-340bhp mark is quite easily achievable. My brother has one in his Caldina GT-T and it made 165kW at the wheels in stock form. Since he has upgraded the ECU, it does 0-100kph in 4.9 seconds, which would be great fun in a Corolla considering it weighs much less.

As for the RWD conversion, I'd say that will be a much bigger headache than the 3S-GTE swap. Not really worth doing in my opinion.

Best of luck with whatever route you decide to go down
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If the accident was severe enough to bend the frame of the car, I would get rid of it and move on to something better.

If you're planning on doing all that, I would suggest buying a platform that offers more tuning potential, preferably one that is already RWD.

An MKII MR2 Turbo would be great because it already comes equipped with the 3S-GTE and RWD.
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To be honest, I'd start with a different shell. Personally I wouldn't start a project like that with a car that had major structural damage in the past, but if it means that much to you then go for it

As for the 3S-GTE swap, it has been done a few times before so it's definitely possible. You can strengthen the chassis by using Ultra Racing parts, as seen on their website:
http://www.ultraracing.com.my/Bars.asp?ID=3127

3S-GTE engines have a lot of potential, and the 320-340bhp mark is quite easily achievable. My brother has one in his Caldina GT-T and it made 165kW at the wheels in stock form. Since he has upgraded the ECU, it does 0-100kph in 4.9 seconds, which would be great fun in a Corolla considering it weighs much less.

As for the RWD conversion, I'd say that will be a much bigger headache than the 3S-GTE swap. Not really worth doing in my opinion.

Best of luck with whatever route you decide to go down
i can also understand about the chassis damage thing. i know i can put sway bars/struck bars to make the car strong.hell i can even make a role cage of my own.....but none of there will help the bent chassis,will it??

how bout if i re-weld some of the parts of it?may be put some stronger steel bars as braces and re-weld them with the vital joints of the chassis? how will that work out?sure it will add some extra weight,but im ok with it as long as it works,what do you guys think??
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If the accident was severe enough to bend the frame of the car, I would get rid of it and move on to something better.

If you're planning on doing all that, I would suggest buying a platform that offers more tuning potential, preferably one that is already RWD.

An MKII MR2 Turbo would be great because it already comes equipped with the 3S-GTE and RWD.
no MR2 or even a MRS is available. finding a cheap RWD car in here is next to impossible. i was sticking with this corolla cause u had many memories with it. that car pulls right when i drive it,so something is very wrong with the chassis. on the crash we hit a tree,1 feet from the centre of the car.near the drivers side. it broke the radiator hafway,dat bending the front frame that holds the radiator.pushed and bend the chassis pretty much. the chassis went inside about 8-10inchs i guess,it also broke the engine from the bottom,there were some concrete blocks on the bottom of the tree.the car went over them which broke the engine.none of us got badly injured,just felt a hard shake,none of us was wearing seatbelts as well yet nobody got thrown off the car(yah i know its dangerous and we could have got killed,buy unfortunately wearing seatbelt is not necessary in our country and we were young and dump and stupid )

so i dont know should i go forward with it or not....HELP HELP HELP!!!
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You may as well just start with another Corolla. Judging by what you've said about the one you used to own, it sounds like it's going to cost a fortune just to get it back to how it was originally. The money would be much better spent on the swap, or even a new car.
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You may as well just start with another Corolla. Judging by what you've said about the one you used to own, it sounds like it's going to cost a fortune just to get it back to how it was originally. The money would be much better spent on the swap, or even a new car.

i talked with the guy who fixed the body works then on the car. he said the under part of the chassis that holds the engine and tranny got the worst hit,he tells me if i replace it,then it should work better. the 2 solid bar type chassis that runs straight from the cabin to near both the headlights,one of those got a light hit,not that much,the underpart got the most hit which is changeable. he told me by replacing and, running up the suspension and changing a few hangers if needed should make the chassis good as new.....i dont know much,but what do you guys say about the statement?? is it ok??
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You know what this sounds like...Wangan Midnight! The main character's car, the Devil Z, got in many accidents, and after each he rebuilt the car. It finally though came to them having to seam weld the entire frame...

I don't discourage you from doing all this modifying and in fact, all the more power to you. If we saw an 8th gen with RWD!!!...that would be SWEET!!!!! The problem is that it is a ton of money, a lot of time, AND custom parts. I like the MR2 idea a lot!

Sentimentality is great to hold onto, and keep, items, BUT similarly to love, it can also blind us. I am def not doubting that this can't be done, or that it wouldn't be cool, or that you don't have the drive. The real question like said before, how deep do your pockets go?
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You know what this sounds like...Wangan Midnight! The main character's car, the Devil Z, got in many accidents, and after each he rebuilt the car. It finally though came to them having to seam weld the entire frame...

I don't discourage you from doing all this modifying and in fact, all the more power to you. If we saw an 8th gen with RWD!!!...that would be SWEET!!!!! The problem is that it is a ton of money, a lot of time, AND custom parts. I like the MR2 idea a lot!

Sentimentality is great to hold onto, and keep, items, BUT similarly to love, it can also blind us. I am def not doubting that this can't be done, or that it wouldn't be cool, or that you don't have the drive. The real question like said before, how deep do your pockets go?
not very much....im just a college student,making my way around....and i recently also bought a integra with type R specs.

since the pocket isnt deep enough therefore im skipping the RWD idea. i had some very long convs with my mechanics and they all agree bolting on the engine can be done,no doubts. the tranny and axles can also be done if i know which one/model to pick(which i think you guys can help me with since some of you already did the swap).....about the RWD conversion, all of them are also puzzled. they think it will be too complex to do and in the end wont give good results.

about the chassis.they are saying it will hold,but the problem is they are saying it will hold on a scale where people drive a0 100kmph(which is 60mile/hour) max on the highways......so they know for sure if i change the lower part of the chassis with a new one then it will hold. but im planing to reach speeds like 220-240kmph. so some help for the chassis please
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