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Old 08-18-2010, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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replacement rear springs - TOO SHORT??

My car's rear end is saging with age (similar to my own!). I read here months ago that someone fixed the problem by replacing the springs.

Its has gotten so bad that when I tow a trailer with my jet ski, the hitch almost drags. (The trailer is well-balanced.. probably 70 pounds of weight on the hitch.)

The local Auto Zone sold me some aftermarket springs. They were 1.5 inches shorter than the old worn out springs! So I returned them for a different brand. They too were 1.5 inches shorter.

How can that be possible?? Two different manufcacturers making the same mistake?

I thought that perhaps the shorter springs were stiffer and that would compensate for the length. But the thickness of the metal appears to be the same, if that's any indication of stiffness.

I would just install them to try them out but the parts store doesn't want to let me return the second set because he says they are the correct part.

Can anyone explain the different in spring length???

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Unsatisfactory quality control is the problem. A lot of aftermarket companies don't do their research.

Return them and just tell the shop that the fitment wasn't right.

In any event, just get new OEM springs and save yourself the hassle.
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what brand were they and how much?
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what brand were they and how much?
Sorry about the slow reply...

The first set was $98 for the pair and I don't remember the brand name.

The second set was $125 for the pair and the brand name is Moog.

I'm in Canada so I'm not sure if Moog is a brand name you would be familiar with in the US. Also those prices probably seem high - life in a semi-socialist country is expensive! :-) I read somewhere on this site that someone bought a pair of aftermarket springs for $67.
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In any event, just get new OEM springs and save yourself the hassle.
I priced a new set from the Toyota dealer. I'm looking at about $300 for the pair. I only paid $900 for the car so I'm looking for a cheaper alternative.

Unfortunately the rubber spacers that can be used to "boost" some springs don't seem to bit these toyota springs because there is so much space between the coil rings, the spacers just fall out.
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$300 for a pair of OEM springs? Its cheaper just to get lowering springs!
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That sounds interesting because I had the opposite problem, my rear springs were too LONG!!! When I brought Bilstein struts, the rear struts were too short for the Eibach springs on my 98 Corolla. It was strange because the KYB struts I had on the car before fit the springs just fine. I called tech support and they claimed that 93-97 Corolla have different design than the 98-02 Corolla even though most manufactuers design one spring for 93-02 Corolla (93-97 have a longer rear spring). Long story short, I ended up using 93-97 rear struts with 98-02 front struts on my car.

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Has anyone here used the metal, adjustable spacers that can be inserted between the rungs of the coil spring and adjusted to fit? I guess they simply don't allow one section of the spring to compress, thereby making them stiffer.

I heard that the metal spacers can cause the springs to break, unlike the black rubber ones (the rubber ones are too small to fit the very large gap between these spring rungs).
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That sounds interesting because I had the opposite problem, my rear springs were too LONG!!! When I brought Bilstein struts, the rear struts were too short for the Eibach springs on my 98 Corolla. It was strange because the KYB struts I had on the car before fit the springs just fine. I called tech support and they claimed that 93-97 Corolla have different design than the 98-02 Corolla even though most manufactuers design one spring for 93-02 Corolla (93-97 have a longer rear spring). Long story short, I ended up using 93-97 rear struts with 98-02 front struts on my car.
So in terms of OEM parts... which are longer, the stock 93-97 springs, or the stock 98-02 springs?
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I priced a new set from the Toyota dealer. I'm looking at about $300 for the pair. I only paid $900 for the car so I'm looking for a cheaper alternative.
Never buy from the dealer if you want to save on OEM parts.

Look up your vehicle with the VIN number on toyodiy.com and find the part number for rear springs.

You should try contacting Toyota Parts Barn for a better price:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/fo...play.php?f=264
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Great information! Thanks!
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So in terms of OEM parts... which are longer, the stock 93-97 springs, or the stock 98-02 springs?
93-97 are longer.
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i swear when i put the tein stech springs and kybs on my corolla back in the day (first mod i did!) it raised the rear up a little bit. i sagged so bad and the muffler would scrape if i hit a dip in the road the wrong way. then i noticed the car handled better, that is when the addiction started and i still cant stop modifying the suspension.
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