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Old 10-21-2010, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Clutch went out completely

I was driving home one night after classes on some windy backroads and the clutch went out completely on a hill at 95,000 miles. I'm not gunna say I was being easy on it by any means when it went out, but it was about time for it to finally wear out. It was towed the next day to a local shop and that is where it sits until next week. What brand, stage, material, clutch have you all used on a corolla or other car and would recommend for me? Thank You.
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Your best bet most likely is going to be another oem clutch. No need for a tougher clutch with a higher rating that you won't be using. Most likely it will just be rougher on your tranny. You can always upgrade, but why?
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Clutches don't typically just go out. They usually give plenty of warning. Had it been slipping? Noticed any other symptoms?
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I recently ordered a Luk clutch, it was my understanding that they likely made the original clutch.

Be prepared to spend a mint. I was quoted between $850 and $950... I decided to do it my self because I can buy all of the tools necessary plus the part and still come out a head. Another consideration for me is that we don't need two cars so I can take a few weeks (get all of the parts in plus 1-2 days to do the repair) to fix it myself.
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Old 10-24-2010, 09:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Clutches don't typically just go out. They usually give plenty of warning. Had it been slipping? Noticed any other symptoms?
Like I said it was about time for the clutch to go out. It had been slipping a little prior to going out of course.. but I expected it to last a few thousand more miles when I had the time. I really didn't have time to have it sit in a shop for a week or more because I drive 50 minutes to school 5 days a week, plus work, so I kept driving it. Of course things happen unexpectedly. It's still in the shop and I'm hoping it is done by the middle of this week coming up. I have gotten a quote 600-700 dollars from a small town shop that also did my full suspension for $200. I will probably be going with an OEM clutch anyways because it is most practical.
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That bites... I think you are on the right track for fixing it though.
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That bites... I think you are on the right track for fixing it though.
Yep, thanx! It's inconvenient but gotta do it. It will drive a lot nicer with the new clutch too.
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i like the ACT HDSS. it is a full faced organic disc, much like stock, but paired with a stiffer pressure plate. and if you do like to drive spiritedly, i would also recommend a lighter flywheel than stock. more specifically the MWR chromoly unit. combined with the act clutch it would really liven up the car. the HDSS clutch kit will also share about the same life expectancy as stock, be just as gentle as a stock clutch would be and still hold up to more power or abuse better than an OEM would.
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i like the ACT HDSS. it is a full faced organic disc, much like stock, but paired with a stiffer pressure plate. and if you do like to drive spiritedly, i would also recommend a lighter flywheel than stock. more specifically the MWR chromoly unit. combined with the act clutch it would really liven up the car. the HDSS clutch kit will also share about the same life expectancy as stock, be just as gentle as a stock clutch would be and still hold up to more power or abuse better than an OEM would.
Thanx for the feedback. The only problem here is the shop has a stock clutch waiting to be put in this instant but he said he would recommend to get a tougher clutch. If i ordered a tougher clutch it will add another week to me not having a car. It's kinda a toss up but I think I'm just going to go with the oem so I can get my car on the road. Good idea or no?

Also, have you heard anything about the fidanza flywheel. This is a link with an oem exedy clutch with a fidanza flywheel. Otherwise I will just buy a clutch from horsepowerfreaks, the link below this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY...Q5fAccessories

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...ch/Clutch_Kits

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i like the ACT HDSS. it is a full faced organic disc, much like stock, but paired with a stiffer pressure plate. and if you do like to drive spiritedly, i would also recommend a lighter flywheel than stock. more specifically the MWR chromoly unit. combined with the act clutch it would really liven up the car. the HDSS clutch kit will also share about the same life expectancy as stock, be just as gentle as a stock clutch would be and still hold up to more power or abuse better than an OEM would.
Ok, so I am liking the MWR chromoly flywheel. How would it pair up with the oem exedy clutch? What are other clutches that you would suggest with this flywheel?

Also, If I buy a clutch and pressure plate kit along with the flywheel and take it to the shop, is that all that is necessary for it to be put in by the shop?

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Ok, so I am liking the MWR chromoly flywheel. How would it pair up with the oem exedy clutch? What are other clutches that you would suggest with this flywheel?

Also, If I buy a clutch and pressure plate kit along with the flywheel and take it to the shop, is that all that is necessary for it to be put in by the shop?

You should replace the throw out bearing and check the fork for wear also(mine was so worn I had to replace it). I would check to see if your engine has a pilot bearing in the end of the crank and replace it too. These are all fairly cheap parts and you dont want to have to pull it apart again to replace them. Your kit may contain some or all of these except the fork.

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Thanx for the feedback. The only problem here is the shop has a stock clutch waiting to be put in this instant but he said he would recommend to get a tougher clutch. If i ordered a tougher clutch it will add another week to me not having a car. It's kinda a toss up but I think I'm just going to go with the oem so I can get my car on the road. Good idea or no?

Also, have you heard anything about the fidanza flywheel. This is a link with an oem exedy clutch with a fidanza flywheel. Otherwise I will just buy a clutch from horsepowerfreaks, the link below this one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXEDY...Q5fAccessories

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...ch/Clutch_Kits
you can use an oem clutch on a lightened flywheel. if you want to do that, then go for it. the clutch will last a long time if you break it in properly. 500 miles of easy driving. after that your good to go. if it was a pucked clutch, take it out and slip the hell out of it 2 good times and your good. i tend to follow the rule of when it breaks, replace it with an upgraded part. but thats me. i can beat on my cars pretty hard, so i expect them to break, but build them to hold up to the beatings.

fidanza is not a bad flywheel at all, i just prefer the choromoly units because they last longer at the sacrifice of a pound or two from total weight. plus they are one piece. no worries about starter rings coming loose, or friction plates coming loose. just drive it as hard as you want, worry free.

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Ok, so I am liking the MWR chromoly flywheel. How would it pair up with the oem exedy clutch? What are other clutches that you would suggest with this flywheel?

Also, If I buy a clutch and pressure plate kit along with the flywheel and take it to the shop, is that all that is necessary for it to be put in by the shop?
an oem exedy clutch is pretty good. i used one along time ago in my old s13. it did hold up to alot of abuse with clutch kicks and some hard drag launches.

any name brand clutch really, act, spec, exedy, clutchmaster. just stay away from the junky clutches sold on ebay and you should be golden. as for the install, take the clutch kit and flywheel to the shop. that should be it. any good clutch kit will include a new throwout bearing and a pilot bearing (or bushing in some apps), but our cranks use neither pilot bearing/bushing so it wont have it.
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you can use an oem clutch on a lightened flywheel. if you want to do that, then go for it. the clutch will last a long time if you break it in properly. 500 miles of easy driving. after that your good to go. if it was a pucked clutch, take it out and slip the hell out of it 2 good times and your good. i tend to follow the rule of when it breaks, replace it with an upgraded part. but thats me. i can beat on my cars pretty hard, so i expect them to break, but build them to hold up to the beatings.

fidanza is not a bad flywheel at all, i just prefer the choromoly units because they last longer at the sacrifice of a pound or two from total weight. plus they are one piece. no worries about starter rings coming loose, or friction plates coming loose. just drive it as hard as you want, worry free.



an oem exedy clutch is pretty good. i used one along time ago in my old s13. it did hold up to alot of abuse with clutch kicks and some hard drag launches.

any name brand clutch really, act, spec, exedy, clutchmaster. just stay away from the junky clutches sold on ebay and you should be golden. as for the install, take the clutch kit and flywheel to the shop. that should be it. any good clutch kit will include a new throwout bearing and a pilot bearing (or bushing in some apps), but our cranks use neither pilot bearing/bushing so it wont have it.
Alright thanks alot for the feedback,

My conclusion is to order the MWR chromoly flywheel from monkeywrenchracing.com even though my flywheel is fine http://www.monkeywrenchracing.com/pr...oducts_id=1075

And I am going to get one of these clutches from horsepowerfreaks here probably the spec stage 1 or 2.
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perf...ch/Clutch_Kits

I hope these go in without any extra work.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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they will go in just fine without any additional work. i would prolly go for the stage 1 if your not going to do anything else performance wise.

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