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Old 01-28-2011, 07:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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99 corolla no start issue

so today i went out this morning to start up my 99 corolla, and head out for my 90 mile trip to work like i do every morning. turned the key, and it wouldn't turn over. kept at it for a few minutes, and nothing. no problem i just took my f350 to work. i come home tonight, and try again, and no luck either. now it was dark when i left this morning, and it was when i got home tonight also. couldn't really fool around with it too much, but i will be checking for spark, and fuel tomorrow morning. it was kinda similar to a no spark, or fuel pump problem. now the car is less than 1100 miles from the 180k mile mark. so i guess anything can go at that point. is there any common no start issues with corollas? i don't read about fuel pumps being so common, but it's got 180k miles so who knows. i knew my luck wasn't gonna last relying on it to get me almost 200 miles a day to and from work.


it's been very reliable especially when compared to my mothers 02 ford taurus which has 80k miles, and every week something is going wrong with it. i've replaced a few things in 3.5 years, and almost 60k miles i've put on this car. it's getting to the point where i may have to sell it, but i want another year out of it. the check engine light is on for a few bad sensors, and has been for years, but i'm sure now that i say that someone will think that is the culprit, but i don't believe it is. after months of being convinced something was wrong with the front end, and coming to terms it wasn't i see i have a bad cv joint or what sounds like one, and i'm not gonna fix that, because i really don't have the extra cash to, and my mortgage is more important than that cause i know the ''fix that before you have big problems'' advice is coming. easy to say for someone who has the cash to fix it. not to sound like a dick, but spare the advice on that issue please cause it's falling on blind eyes. i'm really not gonna do anything with that until it starts making a lot of noise or feels like it's getting bad, and now it isn't. if i don't log back on though i guess you can assume my bad cv joint let go, and i'm not around anymore!


first i gotta get the car running though. what i'm asking is are there common problems with the 99 corolla, and not starting? maybe check the coils, or fuel pump? maybe a bad sensor? i do scan the car often, because i am not gonna waste $700 bucks to fix every bad sensor, and just to make sure there aren't any new codes. scanned it about a month ago, and nothing new. my best friend can help me with fuel pumps, or something. also once i find out if anyone can maybe direct me to some good parts that you might reccomend for these cars. thank you.
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Old 01-29-2011, 04:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You're getting ahead of yourself. You said it didn't turn over. Check the battery, battery cables and the starter.

If it is in fact turning over then you should check for fuel and spark first.


Sorry but.............
If you fix/maintain your car like it is going to last forever......it just may.

If you don't fix things when they are broken, how many miles do you think you will actually get out of it?

I've got a '98 with 247K & a '99 with 300,601 miles.
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You're getting ahead of yourself. You said it didn't turn over. Check the battery, battery cables and the starter.

If it is in fact turning over then you should check for fuel and spark first.


Sorry but.............
If you fix/maintain your car like it is going to last forever......it just may.

If you don't fix things when they are broken, how many miles do you think you will actually get out of it?

I've got a '98 with 247K & a '99 with 300,601 miles.
i just don't have $2000 bucks to fix all the crap wrong with it. if you're talking about the check engine that light has been on for years, and 40k miles at least. and today i checked, and no spark. the coil maybe? by the way i wasn't knocking the corolla either. it's pretty reliable next to my mothers taurus, and stuff like that. especially considering the msrp of these cars are $5k-$7k grand lower, and hers has got 100k less than my corolla.
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ok, so it's turning over now but no spark?

I would plug a scanner in and see what codes it's got. I'm pretty sure it will run without a cam sensor but I don't think it will run without a crank sensor. The scanner should help point you in the right direction.

Since it has 2 coil packs it's probably not a coil pack. You'd still be getting spark on 2 of the cylinders if one of the coils was shot so you would at least hear it firing some even though it probably wouldn't start/run on only 2 cylinders.
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ok, so it's turning over now but no spark?

I would plug a scanner in and see what codes it's got. I'm pretty sure it will run without a cam sensor but I don't think it will run without a crank sensor. The scanner should help point you in the right direction.

Since it has 2 coil packs it's probably not a coil pack. You'd still be getting spark on 2 of the cylinders if one of the coils was shot so you would at least hear it firing some even though it probably wouldn't start/run on only 2 cylinders.
well thanks i'll look into that. ya know by best friend had a 93 oldsmobile bravada for a little while, but he just got rid of it about 2 weeks ago. it had a bad crank sensor i think, and it just wouldn't hold idle. one time he was over, and when he went to leave it wouldn't start! it sat in my yard for about a week before he got around to fixing it. it took him a while to figure out what it was, and he didn't have a scanner, and wound up replacing a bunch of different things like the fuel pump, he thought the gas tank had a whole in it, changed the fuel pressure regulator, etc. though i think that may have been something else. if i'm correct i think that may have been something else, but then he had something that made it hard to hold idle, but it would start, but sometimes take a while to turn over. i don't know though. thanks for your help! i'll swing by my buddies he's got a scanner, and maybe he'll let me borrow it for the day on monday! i usually periodically use his scanner to run the codes to make sure nothing new is coming up!
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hey just had a thought. does my corolla even have a crankshaft position sensor? is the crankshaft position sensor kinda of like an ignition module on the distributor ignition cars?
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If you are looking straight at the crank pulley it's located to the right of it and held in with 1 10mm bolt. It has about 1' of cable on it along with the harness.
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JBod: FWIW, I had the same issues you are talking about(I think) where the engine would not turn over at times and other times it would. It progressively got to where it wouldn't turn over and then once or twice I would start it and the starter would STAY engaged regardless of key position. From cheapest to most expensive, I'd do this:
1.Check battery cables for grunge and clean and coat with di-electric grease
2. go to a FLAPS(Auto Zone/Advanced/Checker/PepBoys) and get your battery tested for FREE.
3. Get a Haynes Repair Manual for your car at the FLAPS so you can benefit from their troubleshooting guides and wiring diagrams. Cost; about $20
4. If you are getting battery power to the starter, then the next place I'd look is the starter relay in the black box by the driver side front fender under the hood. They're like $30
5. Next step is the ignition switch itself and that's about $90 at www.autohausaz.com They have free shipping on orders of $50 or more. Haynes has the steps to properly test it and a $12 Volt Ohm Meter from Harbor Freight or WalMart will give you that information and Haynes has a tutorial on how to use a VOM.
6. From there it's likely going to be the starter and I'd lean towards Autohaus AZ as they sell mostly US and Japanese made parts and you'd want a Denso starter in ther if at all possible. They run about $150.

My problem was the ignition switch and to forestall that expensive(to me) fix, I rigged a push button on the dash with two wires going from the starter relay plug(removed the starter relay) and made a jumper wire across the hot terminals. I described what to do in a previous thread. Works just fine until the cash comes to fix the switch(and maybe some warmer weather.

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well thanks everyone. it was my crankshaft position sensor. borrowed a buddy's scanner, and got that code. had a few other too, but i figured i would start with that one, and it's kept it running all day. i did try to start the car every day it's been out of commission just to make sure it wasn't some kind of fluke or intermittent problem. not even a crank until today after we put the new part on. my best friend was able to give me a hand with it. i think i might try to sell it in the next couple months, and maybe buy something new. i just figured out i'm making enough to finance on something brand new in the $16-$18k range. maybe fix some of the problems, and other bad sensors that i can do myself or with the help of my buddy. if i take it to one of these bastard mechanics i already know it's probably gonna cost upwards of $1500 bucks! thanks to every for their help!

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jbod, good to hear! It doesn't get to much easier than that right?
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honestly it was a small pain the ass to get to it. just a minor one. glad it's back running though!
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