So i had my alignment two weeks ago at big o tires...today i check both of my (from inside of car view) left side of my tires and it has a slight positive camber wear and my passenger side tires has no camber wear at all.
So i drive my car to school almost everyday and i believe that i make less right turns of 40 mph + and more left turns that are smooth and at a slow speed.
However since my left turns don't have many tight turns so that is why both of my right tires don't have any slight positive camber wear since not much weight of the car is not being shifted to the right???????
But according to my right turns, many of my right turns have tight turns along with tight turns of 40 mph +, so this causes both of my left tires to have a slight positive camber wear due to the weight of the car shifting towards the left????????
So am i getting it right that that is why i have camber wear on my left tires?
What turns where you taking at 40+ MPH? Highway on-ramps / off-ramps - long sweeping turns feeding into main roads?
Shouldn't be too concerned about the weight shift adversely affect your camber in turn, if the suspension is that soft / that much chassis deflection in cornering - then no amount of messing with the alignment will fix that.
Have you done any suspension mods to the car? Springs, struts, replaced bushings? If all stock, what year and mileage do you have on the car? Could be looking at a worn suspension part - can be tough to diagnose on the rack when they do alignment, unless the old tires shown excessive wear.
Also, if there was excessive wear on the tires when you did the alignment, could be a while before those tires start to run true again. If it was running well before, then they probably missed the alignment - have them redo it, as most places have a warranty on the alignment work.
Well i only have on kyb gr2 struts with tein springs, first time i took it to alignment at big o tires, when i drove it back the steering wasn't even centered, it was off to the left and i took it back and they fixed it a little but it's still off to the left but not as much as before. So i was tired of going back and forth and just let it be.
My turns are like around those streets that are like next to the highway that goes at 55mph posted so thats why theres tight turns of 40 mph+ and some on ramp at around 30mph.
When you put the camber bolts on, did you replace or adjust the tie rods? Because having that much toe out on the front and rear before your alignment seems bizarre.
Also, were the tires brand new, or had you been running them for a while before the camber bolts and alignment?
Never did touch or adjust tie rod...and for those tires i have been running it for a little over 2 yrs now and when i had those tires...i lowered my car and dove it with the same tires too for 1 year out of the 2 years and there were no camber wear at all, but maybe a little negative wear but it's not noticeable until a very long long time.
So since two weeks after alignment, i checked and now notice a slight positive camber wear.
I was just wondering about something if anyone could give a reasonable answer.
So i went back big o tires because of and informed the guy at the desk about slight positive camber wear on both my driver side and that the steering is a little off again.He then informed the alignment guy and the alignment guy says the specs are correct and there shouldnt be a problem...so all he did was just cross rotation the front tires. I think the employees at my big o tires sucks. The freakin guy probably didnt even mention to the alignment guy about the positive camber wear but probably only just about the steering wheel. I mean this sucks when they don't even know how to listen and when they finished doing the freaking cross rotation, i've been sitting there for almost half an hour and then i asked them if they were done. I see them looking through files in a basket in mine was already done like long ago.they suck.
So the question is this. So that now they did a cross rotation in the front only( the slight positive camber tire onto the other side where there's no camber, whereas the no camber tire is mounted where the other tire that had the sight positive camber wear was), so now by having my front right with a positive camber wear whereas my front left is even, when i drove back home, my steering wheel would sometimes steer a little bit to the right and would sometimes often drift to the right too now.
Could this have happen by putting the positive camber wear one on my right, causing it to drift to the right even if all toe and caster, etc., was in their correct spec????????
Can you explain what you mean by camber wear? Are you seeing wear on the inner edge of the tire?
If it's drifting, the toe alignment is out. You might want to find an independent alignment shop to get a second opinion. Many shops will print out your alignment for either free or very little cost.
Which Tein springs are you running - S.Tech or H.Tech? Lowering the suspension of the car can change toe-in and steering angle inclination and included angle (as indicated in the alignment sheet you posted). A slight lowering, like with H.Tech, not an issue, with something like the S.Tech usually getting 2" or more in drop after settling, can cause some headaches. Teins are also on the softer side - to give you a softer ride when lowered, but can introduce some spooky handling at the limit. Bigger drop + softer ride can shift the steering angle and included axis to cause the wheel to "appear" to have too much positive camber. Static alignment will not catch this and may result in a missed alignment.
40+ MPH on highway entry and exit ramps should not be an issue - assuming that the tires are not squealing or have the tread blocks flip (uneven front to back wear) as you go around.
Alignment seems to be more screwed up on the left than the right side of the car - has the car been in an accident before, ran off road, put a lot a weight on the left side of the car. Possible that the shop missed the alignment or factored in a bias that should or should not be there (i.e., they can account for primarily a single driver if requested, some cases, align the car with you sitting in it).
After going to big o tires for the fourth time...they now said it must be my tires because they're not new, but old. I have no idea bout cars history accident but i did have one that someone hit me on my rear passenger quarter panel and door as i was traveling 30 mph but that shouldnt be a big problem. what i think is a big problem is when i went of the crack of a curbed once that was like 2-4 inches high and might've caused the problem but that was way last year towards winter.
I am on s tech spring. Another info is that when i lowered my car, i never experienced any wrong with my steering wheel or it drifting away or any weird camber wear for 1 year.
Not having any issue crop up right after installing them is pretty typical - as it takes some time for them to settle in and start to affect the alignment. If the tires were replaced close to the time you installed the S.Techs, could be some time before the wear becomes noticeable.
Did you replace the struts with the Tein springs at the same time? GR-2 struts are rated to be installed on springs are designed to tolerate springs that do not drop the ride height more than 1.5". If you do, the reduced stroke of the strut will quickly shorten the life of the strut. How quickly depends on a number of conditions - some could drive years and well over 100K miles, others could blow out a strut in under a year and in a few thousands of miles.
Starting to sounds like a compound issue - hence why the shop is having a hard time trying to correct it. I'd try a different shop - explain what suspension you have, what tire wear you are experiencing and see what they can do to correct that. A good shop will tell you what they will do before they even put the car on the rack - a McTire shop with brainless techs can't do anything until they throw the car on the rack and read what the computer tells them.
It is true that tires that are heavily worn can through off the alignment, and some shops will refuse to align the car until the tires are replaced. Since you have work order history on the car and it sounds like they missed the initial alignment job - I'd pursue the shop and see if they can compensate you somehow - if not, there is always legal and consumer affairs recourse.
I have installed my springs when my oem struts were still good and until they just blew, i replaced the struts with gr-2 and been driving with gr-2 for over half a year now probably.
So yeah i agree thats the issue.I'll just wait till my tire wears off and then probably new rims and tires and a new beginning alignment.
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