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Old 08-31-2011, 09:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well that didn't last long...

My 2000 Corolla ownership ended today, two weeks shy of 8 months, when my idiot teenage son pulled out into oncoming traffic and totaled it out.

Broke his collar bone, which effectively prevents me from breaking his neck, but he and the other driver are otherwise fine.

I liked that car, got over 40mpg highway and ~35 city. And they seem to be a lot harder to come by now, too. Him being late and in a hurry to get to class just cost me 5-6000 grand by the time it's all settled.

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Old 09-01-2011, 02:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My 2000 Corolla ownership ended today, two weeks shy of 8 months, when my idiot teenage son pulled out into oncoming traffic and totaled it out.

Broke his collar bone, which effectively prevents me from breaking his neck, but he and the other driver are otherwise fine.

I liked that car, got over 40mpg highway and ~35 city. And they seem to be a lot harder to come by now, too. Him being late and in a hurry to get to class just cost me 5-6000 grand by the time it's all settled.

Did you ever consider that it could have cost HIS life. Personally, I think that a father that shows little concern for his son surviving a bad accident, and that posts a rant on a website and calls his son:

1: An idiot
2: Then says he wants to break his neck, and the only thing stopping you is a broken collarbone he received in the accident
3: AND you only seem concerned about the money the accident will cost you.

That all makes you a grade A jerk!

I think you should re-think your attitude about this situation, and not only apologize to your son, but tell him that you are sorry, and glad he wasn't killed.

Sure he made a bad mistake and cost you money, but he's your SON, and everybody is entitled to one bad mistake. I'll bet you've made at least one mistake in your life that was this bad. You should just thank God he survived and maybe this will wake your son up, and stop him from making a worse mistake in the future. I'm sure he feels bad enough as it is.

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Old 09-01-2011, 08:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yep take it easy on the kid. Remember we all sure did a lot of stupid things when we were teens, and afterward too if you're honest. Glad no one was seriously hurt. It's a wonder I didn't get killed as a teen when I had my 88 SC MR2 because I certainly had a few wipe outs, one at over 100mph when a dog walked on the road. I should have died that day.

That said I'm sure glad I don't have kids because I know I'd catch hell with them after everything I did when I was a kid. What goes around comes around and I know my kids would be the same way I was if not worse so I know better not to have any.
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Sad to hear that from you as a parent, I`m a father too, I`ll more concerned about my sons`s health than a freaking car.

But, oh well, don't complain when you're old and he don't care about you.
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Sounds like my buddy's dad - he wrecked the car in high school doing something stupid and the first thing out of his dad's mouth was, "Is my car OK?" LOL!

Accidents happen - good that both walked away from that accident. As for the OP, I'd say give him a break - just a parent letting off a little steam, no big deal.

If it was my teenage son (my son is currently 8 - just a matter of time before he gets his hands on my car) - I'd ask first if he was OK, then I'd kick his ass for exercising poor judgement in that situation (only if he was at fault).
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Did you ever consider that it could have cost HIS life. Personally, I think that a father that shows little concern for his son surviving a bad accident, and that posts a rant on a website and calls his son:

1: An idiot
2: Then says he wants to break his neck, and the only thing stopping you is a broken collarbone he received in the accident
3: AND you only seem concerned about the money the accident will cost you.

That all makes you a grade A jerk!

I think you should re-think your attitude about this situation, and not only apologize to your son, but tell him that you are sorry, and glad he wasn't killed.

Sure he made a bad mistake and cost you money, but he's your SON, and everybody is entitled to one bad mistake. I'll bet you've made at least one mistake in your life that was this bad. You should just thank God he survived and maybe this will wake your son up, and stop him from making a worse mistake in the future. I'm sure he feels bad enough as it is.
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Yep take it easy on the kid. Remember we all sure did a lot of stupid things when we were teens, and afterward too if you're honest. Glad no one was seriously hurt. It's a wonder I didn't get killed as a teen when I had my 88 SC MR2 because I certainly had a few wipe outs, one at over 100mph when a dog walked on the road. I should have died that day.

That said I'm sure glad I don't have kids because I know I'd catch hell with them after everything I did when I was a kid. What goes around comes around and I know my kids would be the same way I was if not worse so I know better not to have any.
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Sad to hear that from you as a parent, I`m a father too, I`ll more concerned about my sons`s health than a freaking car.

But, oh well, don't complain when you're old and he don't care about you.
Wow. I'm sure WyRolla went thru at least few waves of emotion before realizing they were fine then moving on to wanting to ring his neck and finally posting here. Lighten up.
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Wow. I'm sure WyRolla went thru at least few waves of emotion before realizing they were fine then moving on to wanting to ring his neck and finally posting here.
Yeah, I thought of it, and I dismissed it.

Here's my credentials as a father, and dealing with a son and a SERIOUS accident:

My son will be 25 towards the end of this year. When he was 18, he bought an older Honda CL350, and wanted to get his cycle endorsement. I took him to the class, and he got the endorsement. We TOLD him to NOT take that bike on the expressway, because even though it was a 350, it was older, and slower than it should be. His uncle also told him the same thing, and his uncle owns a lot of bikes since he was a kid.

Anyway, 3 DAYS later, I get a phone call from him at 11:15pm. He just got hit by a car, and it totaled the bike! I woke up my wife, (who was scared to death when I told her what had happened) and we drove there with the trailer. He was already hauled away to the hospital in an ambulance, so I talked to the cop that was there. Here's what went down:

My son left his job at Kentucky Fried Chicken that night, drove up to the expressway, and got on it. It's about 10 miles from there to our towns exit. He was going about 55mph, and it was dark. He made it about 2 miles or so, almost to the last overpass and heard somebody behind him beep the horn a bunch of times. They then PLOWED him from the rear so hard and fast, they POPPED his motorcycle right out from under him like a croquet ball! They probably didn't realize he was driving only 55 or so, when they were going faster. Maybe they were drunk, who knows?

He ended up on their hood, and rolled off and landed on the road, full body-roll (which is also what helped save him). THEY KEPT GOING, while dragging what was left of his bike, until it shredded, and unhooked from the front of their car. We NEVER FOUND THEM, to this day. The cop was almost in shock, and couldn't believe my son basically walked away from this accident. He estimated that car that hit him was going at least 75 mph. So, my son absorbed about a 20mph hit, (75 - 55) rolled off the car, and into the asphalt. He was wearing a good $100 helmet (it was mine, and it was trashed from road-rash, but saved his head), and a leather riding jacket. He only had on rough black KFC work pants. Those pants weren't quite enough protection, and he got some road-rash between the top and the leather jacket.

Anyway, we went to the hospital, and had him go through x-rays and the works to make sure he was ok. Didn't get out of there until around 4:30am. My son is fine today, and God saw to it that he has a second chance.

Three BIG lessons here, that he now understands:

1: He didn't listen to us, thought he knew BEST, and took a bike where it didn't belong. He knows to listen to us now.

2: He was wearing good protective equipment, Helmet and leather jacket. If he had also been wearing leather pants, he wouldn't have any road rash permanent scars today.

One 3rd lesson: Sometimes God protects us from our own stupidity, and gives us a wake-up call. My son got the wake up call of his life, he may never get another one if he didn't pay attention. Some people heed that call, and go on to live.

He now owns a 550cc Honda, and has been riding all these years since then, with no further accidents or issues.

I NEVER told him after the accident that he was stupid, or an idiot, or belittled him in anyway. I told him I was glad he survived, and that the motorcycle can be replaced and isn't important. I also never posted it on a website, and then mention to others that I wanted to break his neck, or made any comments on just how much the hospital costs were (Cat-scans are NOT cheap).

I understand the OP's rant, I just think it's ill-placed and ill-considered. If he didn't have full insurance on that car just to save a little cash, it's HIS mistake, not his son's.

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Yeah, I thought of it, and I dismissed it.

Here's my credentials as a father, and dealing with a son and a SERIOUS accident:

My son will be 25 towards the end of this year. When he was 18, he bought an older Honda CL350, and wanted to get his cycle endorsement. I took him to the class, and he got the endorsement. We TOLD him to NOT take that bike on the expressway, because even though it was a 350, it was older, and slower than it should be. His uncle also told him the same thing, and his uncle owns a lot of bikes since he was a kid.

Anyway, 3 DAYS later, I get a phone call from him at 11:15pm. He just got hit by a car, and it totaled the bike! I woke up my wife, (who was scared to death when I told her what had happened) and we drove there with the trailer. He was already hauled away to the hospital in an ambulance, so I talked to the cop that was there. Here's what went down:

My son left his job at Kentucky Fried Chicken that night, drove up to the expressway, and got on it. It's about 10 miles from there to our towns exit. He was going about 55mph, and it was dark. He made it about 2 miles or so, almost to the last overpass and heard somebody behind him beep the horn a bunch of times. They then PLOWED him from the rear so hard and fast, they POPPED his motorcycle right out from under him like a croquet ball! They probably didn't realize he was driving only 55 or so, when they were going faster. Maybe they were drunk, who knows?

He ended up on their hood, and rolled off and landed on the road, full body-roll (which is also what helped save him). THEY KEPT GOING, while dragging what was left of his bike, until it shredded, and unhooked from the front of their car. We NEVER FOUND THEM, to this day. The cop was almost in shock, and couldn't believe my son basically walked away from this accident. He estimated that car that hit him was going at least 75 mph. So, my son absorbed about a 20mph hit, (75 - 55) rolled off the car, and into the asphalt. He was wearing a good $100 helmet (it was mine, and it was trashed from road-rash, but saved his head), and a leather riding jacket. He only had on rough black KFC work pants. Those pants weren't quite enough protection, and he got some road-rash between the top and the leather jacket.

Anyway, we went to the hospital, and had him go through x-rays and the works to make sure he was ok. Didn't get out of there until around 4:30am. My son is fine today, and God saw to it that he has a second chance.

Three BIG lessons here, that he now understands:

1: He didn't listen to us, thought he knew BEST, and took a bike where it didn't belong. He knows to listen to us now.

2: He was wearing good protective equipment, Helmet and leather jacket. If he had also been wearing leather pants, he wouldn't have any road rash permanent scars today.

One 3rd lesson: Sometimes God protects us from our own stupidity, and gives us a wake-up call. My son got the wake up call of his life, he may never get another one if he didn't pay attention. Some people heed that call, and go on to live.

He now owns a 550cc Honda, and has been riding all these years since then, with no further accidents or issues.

I NEVER told him after the accident that he was stupid, or an idiot, or belittled him in anyway. I told him I was glad he survived, and that the motorcycle can be replaced and isn't important. I also never posted it on a website, and then mention to others that I wanted to break his neck, or made any comments on just how much the hospital costs were (Cat-scans are NOT cheap).

I understand the OP's rant, I just think it's ill-placed and ill-considered. If he didn't have full insurance on that car just to save a little cash, it's HIS mistake, not his son's.
Wow!

Thank you for sharing that experience with us MikeBear. It is definitely something that helps put things into perspective.
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It's only a car and the kid is generally all right. That is the most important. I think the OP was just glad, and really scared, that his son is going to fine (after he heals of course).
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Sometimes God protects us from our own stupidity, and gives us a wake-up call. Some people heed that call, and go on to live.
Absolutely. I truly believe that's what happened to me as well in my near miss with death mentioned above. Glad to hear he's ok but it stinks the sob wasn't arrested. I bet they were drunk like you suspect but don't worry even though the cops didn't get them you reap what you sow in life and it will catch up with them if it hasn't already. Justice comes in many forms.
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Did you ever consider that it could have cost HIS life. Personally, I think that a father that shows little concern for his son surviving a bad accident, and that posts a rant on a website and calls his son:

1: An idiot
2: Then says he wants to break his neck, and the only thing stopping you is a broken collarbone he received in the accident
3: AND you only seem concerned about the money the accident will cost you.

That all makes you a grade A jerk!

I think you should re-think your attitude about this situation, and not only apologize to your son, but tell him that you are sorry, and glad he wasn't killed.
You are an idiot for posting this touchy feely dribble. The man obviously was not going to hurt his kid. Your over-reactive holier than thou attitude is repulsive.
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