Need some advice, error code p0420 - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums


» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Corolla Forum > 8th Generation (1998-2002)

8th Generation (1998-2002) Specific discussion of the 8th generation

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-24-2012, 11:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View mourningstar's Photo Gallery
Need some advice, error code p0420

Seems like a very knowledgeable group here so I am looking for some help / advice. I’ll start with the easier one. Several lights are out behind the instrument cluster for my wife’s Chevy Prizm the only problem is that she doesn’t have a tilt wheel. Should I even attempt this or just suck it up and take it to the dealer? Also a light is out behind the A/C instrument cluster and I got it most of the way out I just had the inside/ outside air lever in the way and it didn’t feel like it was coming out easily so I didn’t want to break it so I never got it out.
The more complicated problem is an ongoing error code P0420 that is throwing a constant check engine as of now. A while back it would only happen when driving the car on long trips and after the car cooled off it would go away. Then it would hang around for a day or two after a long trip, then for a while nothing happened and it wouldn’t even come on. But after one trip it came on and is still on. The car has had no real performance or gas mileage loss throughout these lights and it doesn’t burn oil. So what should I do? Replace both the O2 sensors ? The code says bank 1 but not sure which one that is until I get a repair book on the car.
Thanks for any advice!
mourningstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-25-2012, 07:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
One with the force
 
leakyseals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MA/NH Line
Posts: 1,047
Gameroom cash: $167200
Thanks: 54
Thanked 137 Times in 132 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View leakyseals's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by mourningstar View Post
Seems like a very knowledgeable group here so I am looking for some help / advice. I’ll start with the easier one. Several lights are out behind the instrument cluster for my wife’s Chevy Prizm the only problem is that she doesn’t have a tilt wheel. Should I even attempt this or just suck it up and take it to the dealer? Also a light is out behind the A/C instrument cluster and I got it most of the way out I just had the inside/ outside air lever in the way and it didn’t feel like it was coming out easily so I didn’t want to break it so I never got it out.
The more complicated problem is an ongoing error code P0420 that is throwing a constant check engine as of now. A while back it would only happen when driving the car on long trips and after the car cooled off it would go away. Then it would hang around for a day or two after a long trip, then for a while nothing happened and it wouldn’t even come on. But after one trip it came on and is still on. The car has had no real performance or gas mileage loss throughout these lights and it doesn’t burn oil. So what should I do? Replace both the O2 sensors ? The code says bank 1 but not sure which one that is until I get a repair book on the car.
Thanks for any advice!
Hi, The rear/downstream/post cat O2 sensor is tripping the CEL P0420. The code means catalyst efficiency below threshold, is the cat 90% of the time. Cats go after a while. More often if there is oil consumption. If you can get it off, take it to a car wash spray booth. Use engine degrease, rinse it out with high pressure rinse spray real good, put it back. Replace both gaskets of course. Or just replace it. On these cars its cheaper than replacing the O2 sensors. You can try cleaning the O2 sensors, remove and inspect, use TB or maf sensor cleaner for that.
__________________
00 Corolla CE 1ZZ-FE 164k M1 HM 5w30/Kreen XG4967
02 Camry XLE 2AZ-FE 206k M1 HM 5w30/M1 0w20/Kreen/moS2 L1447

If u like what I write hit the THX button. That way I know to continue contributions or STFU.
leakyseals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 09:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View mourningstar's Photo Gallery
I thought the cat was welded in? Is it that easy to remove ? If I find that the cat is dirty from oil should I be worried?
mourningstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 10:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
Gearhead
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,467
Gameroom cash: $196215
Thanks: 7
Thanked 123 Times in 116 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View fishexpo101's Photo Gallery
Correct, catalytic converter is welded to the center piping - have to cut it off to replace it.

How many miles on the car? If over 100K miles, possible the cat is dead or dying, as they have a finite lifetime - though much of that depends on operation. My 2002 is still on the original cat and both O2 sensors, I have 200K miles on the car - almost exclusively highway driving, 80-100 mile daily commute.

If you clear the CEL and it comes immediately back with a P0420 - then either the cat is bad, the downstream O2 sensor is bad, you have an exhaust leak, or some combination of the above. Should be able to quickly test if the cat is bad or not - if the shop has an exhaust analyzer, the readings should indicate emissions limits pass/fail. A detector wand can also be used to find any exhaust leaks - you can do a visual inspection, looking for that tell-tale sign of carbon and soot close to the leak - but that can be tough job unless you have access to a car lift.

Bank 1 refers to which side the cylinders sit on, since this is an inline-4, you only have Bank 1. What to pay attention is the sensor number. Sensor 1 Bank 1 = upstream or pre-cat O2 sensor. Sensor 2 Bank 1 = the downstream or post-cat O2 sensor. If you find that the sensor is bad (need to backprobe it with an oscilloscope and verify waveform) - then I'd highly recommend sticking with a Denso replacement sensor. Many others found that running a non-Denso sensor adds to problems down the road.
__________________
2002 Corolla S, 1.8L 1ZZ-FE VVT-i
2003 Matrix XRS, 1.8L 2ZZ-GE, VVTL-i (RIP)
2009 Matrix XRS, 2.4L 2AZ-FE VVT-i
fishexpo101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 10:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
One with the force
 
leakyseals's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MA/NH Line
Posts: 1,047
Gameroom cash: $167200
Thanks: 54
Thanked 137 Times in 132 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View leakyseals's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by mourningstar View Post
I thought the cat was welded in? Is it that easy to remove ? If I find that the cat is dirty from oil should I be worried?
I assume the Prizm looks like THIS cat being #17460. If the car is burning oil you would know, it wont be something new. Cats fail over time, they aren't forever. You haven't mentioned the year or miles, so I'm guessing pretty high. Have you used any fuel additives recently?
__________________
00 Corolla CE 1ZZ-FE 164k M1 HM 5w30/Kreen XG4967
02 Camry XLE 2AZ-FE 206k M1 HM 5w30/M1 0w20/Kreen/moS2 L1447

If u like what I write hit the THX button. That way I know to continue contributions or STFU.
leakyseals is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2012, 12:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View mourningstar's Photo Gallery
Year 2000 prizm LSi mileage around 120k. No additives recently, last thing I used was seafoam about 4-5kish miles ago, no CEL from that or immediately after. Also I just got the code readout from auto zone, should I try somewhere else or get a OBD2 reader?

Edit: By clearing the code you mean pulling the negative terminal off and trying to start it?

Last edited by mourningstar; 01-25-2012 at 12:32 PM.
mourningstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Corolla Forum > 8th Generation (1998-2002)

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:04 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.