Yes you will need a light stalk from an S. I would go to eBay or a junk yard for a used one. You will also have to add the fuse and relay for the fogs to work.

 

I have an aftermarket switch that goes next to my mirror control. I had a coin holder there- you may have a tire pressure set button. It came with the whole fog light kit.


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You can use a factory or aftermarket switch based on your preference. If your car is prewired, going with a factory switch is a MUCH better option.

 

When I had my 2006 Matrix, I heard you could use a late 1990s RAV4 foglight switch which costs about $12 from the Toyota dealer (it did back then, a few years ago), otherwise, I'd check some junkyards. As I recall, it fit in perfectly in one of those slots next to the mirror controls, same size in the Matrix and Corolla of those years. I believe I took out the coin holder and the fog light switch fit in perfectly, looked like a factory installation. Even lights up when the fogs are on. In my case, I had someone install aftermarket fog lights and disable my daytime running lights (actually, put a hidden toggle switch under the dash for it), as I wanted to use my fog lights as daytime running lights. Otherwise, with the factory switch, I believe you need to turn on the low beam headlights, which also turns on the rear tail lights, dash lights, etc. And when you put the high beams on, the fog lights are supposed to go off.

I just looked on my computer and it seems I have two Toyota part numbers for that late 1990s RAV4 fog light switch, they're both similar, here they are:

00550-42966
0550-35976

My 2003 Corolla CE did not come with factory fog lights. I plan on getting some that fit the factory fog light openings, and using a RAV4 fog light switch as mentioned above. It's on my list of things to do, so it may not get done for a while, but it will eventually!

 

it would be cheaper to source a separate switch than replacing the whole stalk to include the OEM style fog light stalk switch.

 

Depends how you want it to look and if you can do the work yourself.

You have three options - two of them mentioned:

• Factory Stalk - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Headlight-T.../141419620784?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20ed4429b0&vxp=mtr - $50 - http://www.trademotion.com/parts/20....com/parts/2007/Toyota/Corolla/S?siteid=214095&vehicleid=189806&diagram=8427220 - $164 new - best option for a factory look for resale.
• The 2014 has an aftermarket fog light kit that adds a switch on the dash - http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0176/5842/files/00016-12019_toyota_mcdonough.pdf?1107 - That is easier than changing the column switch - probably what the RAV4 option above uses.
• You can always wire in your own toggle switch or wire them to come on automatically with the headlights - but you probably have to modify the factory wiring if you want to do that.

 

I wish I could find some pics of my fog light switch I put in my former 2006 Matrix (which has the same kinds of blank covers and coin holders on the lower left side of the dash by the power mirror controls like in 9th generation Corollas). Using a fog light switch from a late 1990s RAV4 fit in PERFECTLY and looked TOTALLY factory, trust me. Cost about $12 for the switch, so a lot less than replacing the whole turn signal stalk.

Again, I wish I had pictures of the RAV4 fog light switch installed, but I only have pics of the exterior of the car, and I no longer own it. The best I could find in a Google image search was this, and I can assure you, it looked just as good in my Matrix and would look just as good in a 9th gen Corolla:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj277/acurazinekam/07 Rolla/CIMG3571.jpg

 

I just used my dogs as daytime running lights and use my hids when the auto lights turn on.

http://youtu.be/Iu_GdAHMaPA

 

the Rav4 switch would end up looking like this one here...

 

You could order one of these from Amazon. Same exact part as the Toyota for a fraction of the cost. Amazon.com will say it does not fit a 9th Gen Corolla, but trust me it does.

ACDelco D6253C GM Original Equipment Turn Signal, Headlamp, Headlamp Dimmer, and Fog Lamp Switch with Lever

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EQU11S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/ame]


And here is the relay

Beck Arnley 203-0133 Relay

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UEHMCO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/ame]

 

You could order one of these from Amazon. Same exact part as the Toyota for a fraction of the cost.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UEHMCO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Great find - thanks!

 

^that's the one on my wife's Vibe... she has fogs and auto-headlights.

 

I too have a 2007 LE and my vehicle was not wired for fog lamps. Check main fuse box and look for harness "pigtails" in the bumper reinforcement area.

 

OK, resurrecting another old thread!

I just bought some used OEM fog lights from a 2003-04 Corolla (they're similar but different on 2005-08 Corollas). I opted to get OEM fog lights instead of aftermarket as I get the impression they are better quality. Brand new from the Toyota stealership they were outrageously priced, so I got used OEM fog lights and then took them to a shop to lightly sand the plastic lenses and seal with with a UV resistant clear finish, similar to the factory finish. They had not yellowed, but were pitted. A few months ago I got my headlights restored (they were badly yellowed) and now they look like new, with night vision drastically improved. Six months later, they still look as good as the day they were restored.

A few questions about installing the fog lights:

1. Does anyone know if 2003 Corollas were prewired for fog lights? Sometimes the wiring harness is installed even if the accessory is not there. I'm hoping that's the case. Due to physical limitations, I cannot crawl under the car to look.

2. If my car is prewired (really hoping it is), does that mean the fog lights plug in, to a wiring harness in the front bumper? And then just install a relay and fuse in the fuse box under the hood, and then a new turn signal switch with the built in fog light switch will just plug and play? And the fog light indicator on the dash by the gages will also work? If I get a new turn signal switch, can I get one that had variable intermittent wipers, for plug and play installation too? (my car has the fixed intermittent setting ). I'm thinking that a used one from the junk yard may not be good, since most cars will significantly more mileage and use than mine (63,000 miles / 100,000 kms). Not sure I want to chance it with an aftermarket part, so I might get one from Toyota. Haven't priced that yet, so if it's crazy expensive, I might get used or aftermarket after all.

3. If my car is not prewired for fog lights, I will get the previously mentioned dash mounted fog light switch from a 1999 RAV4 that will fit in perfectly into one of those slots with a blank cover or the coin holder on the left side of the steering wheel, next to the power mirror switch. But, I guess if I go this route, the fog lights will stay on even when I turn on the high beams. The factory switch makes the fogs go off when the high beams are turned on. Is there any way to replicate this with a dash mounted switch?

4. If I remove the black plastic covers where the fog lights are supposed to go, will the fog lights just fit in? It looks like they might hook in on one side and be attached by a bolt and nut on the other side. Again, due to physical limitations, I'm unable to get down on the ground to have a look. Eventually I'll get a mechanic to put these in, but was curious to know the answer now.​

Thank you in advance for any help or tips! :smile:

Here are some pics of the fog lights I got.





And here's my car with the black plastic covers where the fog lights will soon be! :grin:

 

OK, resurrecting another old thread!

I just bought some used OEM fog lights from a 2003-04 Corolla (they're similar but different on 2005-08 Corollas). I opted to get OEM fog lights instead of aftermarket as I get the impression they are better quality. Brand new from the Toyota stealership they were outrageously priced, so I got used OEM fog lights and then took them to a shop to lightly sand the plastic lenses and seal with with a UV resistant clear finish, similar to the factory finish. They had not yellowed, but were pitted. A few months ago I got my headlights restored (they were badly yellowed) and now they look like new, with night vision drastically improved. Six months later, they still look as good as the day they were restored.

A few questions about installing the fog lights:

1. Does anyone know if 2003 Corollas were prewired for fog lights? Sometimes the wiring harness is installed even if the accessory is not there. I'm hoping that's the case. Due to physical limitations, I cannot crawl under the car to look.

2. If my car is prewired (really hoping it is), does that mean the fog lights plug in, to a wiring harness in the front bumper? And then just install a relay and fuse in the fuse box under the hood, and then a new turn signal switch with the built in fog light switch will just plug and play? And the fog light indicator on the dash by the gages will also work? If I get a new turn signal switch, can I get one that had variable intermittent wipers, for plug and play installation too? (my car has the fixed intermittent setting ). I'm thinking that a used one from the junk yard may not be good, since most cars will significantly more mileage and use than mine (63,000 miles / 100,000 kms). Not sure I want to chance it with an aftermarket part, so I might get one from Toyota. Haven't priced that yet, so if it's crazy expensive, I might get used or aftermarket after all.

3. If my car is not prewired for fog lights, I will get the previously mentioned dash mounted fog light switch from a 1999 RAV4 that will fit in perfectly into one of those slots with a blank cover or the coin holder on the left side of the steering wheel, next to the power mirror switch. But, I guess if I go this route, the fog lights will stay on even when I turn on the high beams. The factory switch makes the fogs go off when the high beams are turned on. Is there any way to replicate this with a dash mounted switch?

4. If I remove the black plastic covers where the fog lights are supposed to go, will the fog lights just fit in? It looks like they might hook in on one side and be attached by a bolt and nut on the other side. Again, due to physical limitations, I'm unable to get down on the ground to have a look. Eventually I'll get a mechanic to put these in, but was curious to know the answer now.​

Thank you in advance for any help or tips! :smile:

Here are some pics of the fog lights I got.

There is some misinformation in this thread so I will try and clarify.

This has been mostly discussed already here:

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/1...h-gen-corolla-1st-gen-matrix-2003-2008/1285049-nice-easy-mods.html#post10615889

If your car is prewired and you want the factory operation you will want to find or buy:

OEM Fog light switch for 2003-2008 Corolla, Matrix, Pontiac Vibe w/fog option
1 Fog Light Relay (Same 4 pin relay as horn, fuel pump, or A/C. I got like 25 for free at a junkyard from various Toyotas)

If your car is prewired and you want the independent operation you will want to find or buy:

OEM Fog light switch for 2003-2008 Corolla, Matrix, Pontiac Vibe w/fog option
1 Fog Light Relay (Same 4 pin relay as horn, fuel pump, or A/C. I got like 25 for free at a junkyard from various Toyotas)
Modify the OEM wires so the fogs come on independent from headlights (basically rewire the ground)

If your car is not prewired and you want to run the fogs close to factory:

You will need to get a fog light kit and wire the fogs using the provided switch, relay and wiring kit.

Note: Be aware that the wiring in these kits is generally garbage and on the Camry I had to basically make an entirely new wiring harness with thicker wire, a new relay (OEM Toyota 4 Pin) and inline fuse. The provided stuff melted on it's own and the upgrade has been fine since with the same configuration. Also the bulbs in those kits are garbage and will likely require almost immediate replacement.

I did this on my Camry and here is how I did it:

Relay:

Ground to red wires at the fog light switch
Output to fog lights
12V Fused constant from fuse box. You could also use the battery itself but I wanted to hide my wiring. Be sure to add an inline fuse to this wire.
12V switched from the low beam headlight via an add-a-fuse

Switch:

Note: If using a switched source from under the hood, the red switch wires will need to be extended significantly

2 red wires after splice to relay ground
Yellow wire not connected to anything
Black wire to chassis ground

Here is a diagram I made for the wiring setup:



If your car is not prewired and you want to run the fogs independent from the headlights:

Do the above but wire the 12V switched wire from the relay to anything that has power on with ACC or ON key positions as opposed to the headlight fuse (dome or other fuse circuit) via an add a fuse.

But to answer your questions:

1. Yes they are. As you determined yours is, models were available prewired for all years 2003-2008 regardless of build location. The easiest way to check is by popping the engine bay fuse box cover and looking at the fog relay slots. If there are pins and wires in the fog relay slot, it is prewired. If the slots are empty, it is not prewired.

2. If your car is prewired, you would need to swap the switch (headlight switch), add a relay to the Fog relay slot, and you should be good. All prewired cars I have seen have the fuse in place already. As for the switch, you can use any headlight switch with fog option from a 2003-2008 Corolla, Matrix, or Pontiac Vibe. I would not worry about using a used or aftermarket switch. My switch came from a Pontiac Vibe with more miles than my car.

3. Not really. The operation of the headlights is caused by the DRL relay. You can't duplicate that operation without ripping into the under dash wiring to wire in a separate switch. You can duplicate the operation pretty close using the wiring setup in that link above.

4. Yes. They have a slot on one end and use a bolt for the other side.

5. Fort the wiper switch it is the same exact thing as the fog switch. You need a wiper switch with intermittent option from a 2003-2008 Corolla LE or XRS. You can use a 2003-2008 Matrix or Pontiac Vibe switch but you will have the useless rear wiper functions on the switch.

 

1 - Don't know.
2 - As I understand it, yes on plug and play and yes on intermittent wipers. I don't think a turn-signal/wiper switch fails often, even with high miles.
3 - Most people want to modify the car so the fog lights DO NOT turn off with the high beams, but ... yes, you can do that by wiring in an additional relay - see http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/mk3-focus/290882-fog-light-installation-s-model-pics-2.html - Reply 19 diagram and Reply 21 - it isn't drawn out, but any good electrical shop or mechanic should be able to figure out how to make it work based on the above.
4 - Not sure, but as you said - looks like they clip in and attach with a nut. Looks like the middle picture shows a lock nut on the one on the right, but maybe not on the one of the left, but it should be a standard metric nut - any mechanic shop that can install these should have access to one.

 

Thanks for the info! That forum post for the 2012 Focus is really in depth, but looks like it's more of a challenge as the newer cars are more sophisticated and high tech, and everything seems to be controlled by the Body Control Module, so he has to make a work around with a basic, directly wired switch, which looks like it would be similar to the way it would be in our older Corollas, if there is no prewiring available.

I'm going to take my car to someone to have a look for me and see if any pre-wiring is visible in the front bumper area for fog lights, and maybe test fit the fog lights. If my car is prewired, I will order the turn signal switch that has the fog light switch integrated (and of course, the headlight switch). If it looks like my car is not not prewired, then I will get a dash mounted switch. I did some research and found some Toyota part numbers for dash mounted fog light switches which "should" fit in one of those openings on the left side of the dash with a blank cover plate or the coin holder. I called Sparks Toyota TRD parts department since they do a lot of shipping of OEM Toyota parts. Here are the part numbers I asked him to check:

00550-42966 discontinued (this was the switch that was supposed to be for a late 1990s RAV4 that I used in my former 2006 Matrix but it has since been discontinued)

00550-35976 (original equipment for a 1997-2000 Camry and a 1996-98 4Runner) $8.95 - Also available on Amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-00550-35976-Fog-Light-Switch/dp/B00KTKFBG4 looks like it will fit in one of those openings with a blank cover or coin holder, although Amazon says it won't fit a 2003 Corolla, probably because it did not come on that car, but "should" fit in that spot.

84160-04010 (original equipment for a 2005-2012 Tacoma) $42.35 - Also available on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-84160-04010-Fog-Light-Switch/dp/B008YVOLH0 but I'd like to see one in person, as it looks a bit different and may not fit in those openings with a blank cover or coin holder.

Not sure why there is such a price difference between those two switches. Maybe one is better than the other? Or they price the ones for newer models higher?

Dash Mounted Switch
If I end up using a dash mounted switch, custom wired to the fog lights, I guess I could have it set up so that the fog lights stay on even if the high beams are turned on. I think that's the way it was set up on my former 2006 Matrix (also custom wired with a dash mounted switch). As long as the relay and fuse can handle the electrical load and doesn't blow anything or start an electrical fire, it's fine with me.

Plug and Play Turn Signal Switch
The turn signal switch with the fog light dial is $160.75 (forgot to ask for the part number). In a previous post on this thread, there is a link to one on Amazon for about $100 less, though it shows as being a GM AC Delco part, presumably for a Pontiac Vibe. One of the reviews says it fit a 2007 Corolla, but that doesn't mean it will work in a 2003 Corolla. The 2003 and 2004 Corollas have many things that are unique to those years, so not sure I want to take the risk.

They're a bit pricey, but not as bad as I thought. I was expecting it to be $400. Getting a used one makes me nervous. Used electronics are hit and miss. And if it doesn't work, then I have to pay labor for someone else to try it, or to later remove it and install a new one. Might as well just get a new OEM switch from the start and have that peace of mind.

Off-Topic Wiper Switch for Variable Intermittent Wipers in a vehicle that didn't originally have it?
The above mentioned switch does not include the wiper switch. It's available for $129.61 with the variable intermittent wiper feature. My car has the fixed intermittent (wipers move about every 3 seconds, plus low and high speed). I asked the parts guy if I plug in the variable intermittent wiper switch in my car which did not originally have it, will it make my wipers work on a variable intermittent speed, but he did not know if it would work. I'm not sure if the switch makes all of the difference, or if there's a different wiper motor, different wiring harness, or additional parts needed to make it work. But it sure would be nice to get variable intermittent wipers and change that switch while the steering wheel is off anyways, for the turn signal switch.

 

Some interesting stuff...

I went to a car customizing shop today. Yesterday, the guy I spoke with (I think he was the owner) told me to come today so he could have a look at my car and the fog lights. So, I came today but he went home early because he was sick. Another guy was there and thought that my car was probably not pre-wired. He said we'd have to put the car on a hoist to have a really good look. I asked him if he could take a quick look anyways, with the car in the parking lot. He took a quick look and said my car is not pre-wired for fog lights and that I should get the dash mounted switch. He also seemed worried about possibly screwing up the computer by plugging in that new turn signal switch. He felt more comfortable making a new electrical circuit, running the fog lights off the battery and having a toggle switch on the dash.

I thought that maybe he didn't take a very thorough look, or just wasn't that into the idea of doing this installation the way I wanted. Against my better judgment (due to some physical limitations I have), I crawled under the car when I got home to take a better look, and hurt myself and had a hard time standing up again, but it was worth it! I could not believe what I was seeing!

From what I can tell, my car IS pre-wired for fog lights! :grin: :banana::boo: See the pics. On each side of the car, just behind the front bumper, roughly behind the area where the fog lights would go, was a wire with a plug. I pulled each of them down, and the electrical plug fit in the socket on the back of each of the fog lights! I was having a hard time making the wire reach far enough to plug in, since the fog lights were not installed, but if they were in the place they are meant to go, the wire would have been long enough. I could not get the right one to snap in place, but the left one did.

I'd say that's a pretty good indication that my car is prewired for fog lights! If that's the case, I just need the relay (and maybe a fuse) plus the new turn signal switch that has the fog light switch on it. Just to be on the safe side, I could also order the $8 dash mounted switch, so I'll have it in case the plug and play turn signal mounted fog light switch won't work. But I'm fairly optimistic it will work, and make this a quicker and easier job. I was worried that just the newer Corollas were prewired, looks like all 9th generation models might be!

Anyone else have any experience with this? Especially if you have a 2003-04 Corolla. Mine is a 2003 Corolla CE.

Right (passenger) side:


Left (driver) side:

 

Umm - if there is an existing connector behind the bumper that clicks into the fog lights that tends to indicate your car is pre-wired for fog lights.

Somewhere there was a thread stating that the Tacoma switch wouldn't fit in the dash - it might be above in this thread from one of the links - not sure.

Running the fogs with the high-beams on is fine electrically. It is illegal in some states, but I don't know if they really even care in the states that it is illegal.

On the switch - check the part number for a 2007 Corolla Switch and the 2003 Corolla Switch you are looking at. If they are the same the Vibe switch will work. If they are different the Vibe switch still MIGHT work.

The current gen Focus was an odd animal - the SE model was pre-wired for fog lights, but the lights were run through the BCM, so even if you connected them, they wouldn't work. (Eventually, they came out with Russian hacked Focccus software that allowed you to enable them in the BCM).

Agreed - the installer just didn't want to bother with doing it your way - but given the Focus experience, I understand his point. If you follow that thread - many people bought the car without fogs and the dealer said they would install the fog lights for them or if they bought the fog lights, the dealer would install them, only to find out even the dealer couldn't modify the software to make them work. In one case, the dealer bought back an SE and swapped it for a Titanium to keep the member happy.

 

Lots of great feedback, thanks everyone! A few things to add:

1. In my fuse panel, there is a spot for a relay, with pins, for the fog light circuit, and already a 15 amp fuse in place right beside it, so I just need to get the relay. This is also another good confirmation that my car is pre-wired for fog lights.

2. The AC Delco turn signal switch on Amazon, according to them, will not fit a 2003, 2005 or 2007 Corolla, although one of the reviews says he successfully used it in a 2005 Corolla (previously I incorrectly said it was a 2007). In the grand scheme of things, a few extra dollars for a brand new one from Sparks Toyota TRD parts is not that bad. So it's a $160 instead of a $60 for one on Amazon that may or may not work, and maybe $25 for a used one from a junkyard that may have a shortened life. I like the peace of mind knowing that it's a brand new OEM Toyota part that's meant for my year and model of car. And I'll be paying someone to install these things for me, so if I have to pay them twice, to put back my original part and then later the replacement part, any potential savings are gone.

3. Just in case the new turn signal switch doesn't work, I will also order the dash mounted switch for the Camry/4Runner. It's only $8, so no big deal if I don't use it. I may find a use for it later. And if I need it, it's there. No need to wait for one to be ordered. And I had a feeling the Tacoma switch might not work, it just looked different, thank you for confirming that. And it's a lot more expensive too!

4. Good to know about the wiper switch too! Since the steering wheel will be off anyways, I'd LOVE to upgrade to variable intermittent wipers, and save a bit of money on labor because this is not something I can do or even want to try. Last night I found a few threads on this forum that confirmed all I need to do is change the switch to get variable intermittent wipers, so that's what I'll do. Again, for peace of mind and simplicity, I'll probably just order a new one from Sparks Toyota. Can't go wrong with brand new OEM parts, except for price. But, I believe in spending as much as possible. Just kidding! :grin: Both the wiper and headlight/turn signal switch cost less than I was expecting anyways. I'll make up for the extra cost somewhere else.

5. I don't really mind if the fog lights go off when the high beams come on. If it was easy to make them stay on, then I'd do it, but for me, it's not worth the extra time and expense to make a workaround for that. Although if operation of this function is controlled by the DRL's then it might work out differently... Recently I had someone disconnect my factory DRLs (as per several threads on this website), and install a set of turn signal DRLs where the bright filament on the turn signals come on for the DRLs and he custom wired it so that they go off when the handbrake is pulled up (even after it's been put down while the car was running, unlike the OEM DRLs). I also have a discrete switch under the dash to disable the new DRLs should I ever want to have them on or off on demand, without using the handbrake. It will be interesting to see if my fog lights stay on with the high beams now. I'll report back on that later, but it may be a few weeks or longer before I receive the new parts and get them installed.

6. Nice to know the fog lights install so easily, hook into the slot on one side and the bolt on the other. If those plastic splash protector panels under the bumper weren't in the way, I might have actually tried to remove the black filler covers and put in the fog lights myself, and put in the relay. Then once I get someone to put in the new turn signal switch, the fog lights should be operational!

7. I never asked this before, but for bulbs... I want to replace the ones that are in there now. Being that they are used OEM fog lights, I have no idea how old they are, and don't want to be removing the fog lights any time soon to replace burnt out bulbs. Of course, the most reliable bulbs will probably the ones the Toyota dealer sells. Next best bet, aftermarket replacement bulbs from an auto parts store. But I wouldn't mind yellow bulbs. Of the ones I've seen online, they are either pricey and/or may burn out quickly. High performance bulbs incandescent and HID tend to do that. I had that experience with Piaa Extreme White headlight bulbs in this Corolla. Removed the original, and still functional OEM headlight bulbs to put in the PIAAs. The first one burned out in 4 months, the other side two weeks later. They looked great while they lasted but I don't want to be driving around with burned out bulbs until I get a chance to replace them, and do so on a frequent basis. So, I'm back to stock bulbs (brand new ones, cheap and they last forever). :grin: Not sure about LED fog light bulbs. So once again, I may give up nicer, better looking and brighter bulbs for more reliable, ordinary bulbs. And maybe attract less attention for being pulled over. I haven't been pulled over in many, many years. As soon as I got the PIAA bright white bulbs, I got pulled over on I-90 in South Dakota for going 2 (yes TWO miles per hour over the speed limit, according to the cop). :ugh3: I think it was a ruse for doing a check for drug smuggling as I have out of state plates and they look for that. And I have long hair, long beard, earrings and tattoos but I have for a long time and always drive nice and normal and never get pulled over, especially in an otherwise stock looking Corolla. He asked to look through my car and use his drug sniffing dog to check. I had nothing to hide so I politely said "sure, go ahead." He soon discovered it was a waste of time for me, him and his dog, and my dog! I've driven across the USA and Canada many, many, many times, and never had a problem with stock bulbs. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not. Probably stock, white bulbs are best, look good, are reliable and long lasting while attracting less attention? Too bad, because I think yellow ones are more effective in fog and heavy snow.

 

All you need to install the two switches is a small flathead screwdriver and a Phillips screwdriver. Also you do not need to remove the steering wheel for either. DO NOT remove the steering wheel or air bag.

1. Just like I thought.

2. The 2003-2008 Corolla, Matrix, and Pontiac Vibe use the same EXACT switch. If that switch is for a a Vibe and someone used it in a Corolla, it is the same switch. My 2005 Corolla (facelift) has a 2004 Vibe (not facelift) switch. I even put my switch back in that Vibe (which now has non working fog lights). There is ZERO risk assuming it is for one of the listed models. Buying a new switch is the most expensive way to to the swap. They are cheap on ebay.

3. It will. This is 100% unnecessary for the fog lights. You may find another use for it.

4. Also check ebay for that switch. Mine came from another 2005 Corolla.

5. They will if you use the OEM switch. Zero question about it.

6. Understandable.

7. They are standard H3 bulbs. The dealer is likely the most expensive place to get these and would stock only regular bulbs anyway (H3 hasn't been used in a Toyota since the 2004 9th Gen). I would try Rockauto, Amazon, or Walmart.

 

It sounds easier than I thought to install those two switches, but I'm still nervous about doing it. I'm not mechanically inclined and often screw things up when I try. Normally I shy way from things like that. I'll re-read some of the threads on here, or see if there's a YouTube video on changing the turn signal and wiper switch. The local Toyota dealer quoted me 1.5 hours to do it. I'm thinking if it takes them an hour and a half for a professional to do it, that could take me all day, with the potential to really screw it up. But, a mechanic may get it done faster, they just charge what the book or rate schedule says to charge. As for the parts, I want OEM, preferably new, even if it costs a bit more. But I definitely don't want reproduction 3rd party parts. You never know how good the quality is. That's just me and my comfort level. I don't want to risk having to replace a switch later on due to a malfunction so I don't mind paying a bit more for new OEM parts, next best is OEM used parts like I did with the fog lights since they were super expensive from the dealer and I didn't want the aftermarket ones on eBay, even though they were super cheap.

For the bulbs, yeah I guess H3 bulbs are not used as much on newer cars now, but since that's the bulb for these fog lights, that's what I'll get. I think like you said, get them from an auto parts store. Probably the same thing the dealer would sell, but for less money. I will seek out the ones that seem the most reliable, which I've found is usually not the most expensive! That's the way it is with bulbs. I might end up with white bulbs if I can't find decent quality, and long lasting yellow ones. And the white ones look more clean and stock, and should light up the lower area on the roadway in front of me in fog or heavy snow. That's what I've found with driving other vehicles with fog lights, not a huge help, but it helps a bit, and they just look pretty cool!

 

I just ordered some LED H3 bulbs for my fog lights from the car audio shop that installed my stereo system, dash cam alarm/remote starter. They come with 2 or 3 colors of covers so I can potentially have yellow after all. A nice alternative to HIDs, but not much cheaper! (and no ballast required). If I like them, I might get LED bulbs for my headlights later. I ordered the turn signal switch and wiper switch today too. Hopefully all of those items arrive by the end of next week, or sooner. Then I will either try to install them, and the fog lights, myself or more likely get someone to install them for me. I'll report back with my thoughts on all of those things, and some pictures as soon as everything is installed and I've tried them out for a few days. Hopefully that will be before the end of May.

 

I don't trust non-OEM LED headlight bulbs yet. There are LED fog light bulbs but the standard H3's are probably a better choice.

 

Yeah, I don't know... LEDs are still a fairly new technology for lights, more so for headlights, been seeing LED tail lights for a while now, and to a lesser extend LED daytime running lights, and now, LED headlights. I didn't want to use LED headlights just yet, but thought this might be a good opportunity to try them out in the fog lights, since they're not absolutely essential lights. A bit pricier than standard H3's for sure. I could still get good old incandescent H3 bulbs. I'll think about it. I kind of want to try out LED fog light bulbs.

Is there anything in particular you don't like about LED bulbs? They're supposed to last a lot long and draw a lot less current. And the ones I saw on display were plenty bright.

 

Two things:

LED's throw a very bright light in a very narrow beam.
LED's can't take a lot of heat - LED headlights typically either have small fans (like a CPU fan) or a lot of aluminum ribbon heat sink cable to keep the bulbs cool.

I really like them for interior lights or backup lights b/c of the blue-white instead of yellow-white color.
Mixed on taillights - they have faster response time, but generally at best equal brightness and visibility to the stock incandescents.

I tend to not like them for main driving lights like fogs and headlights (other then the OEM current gen Corolla) they tend to not put out that much light and they tend to not match color wise if the main lights are not LED.

 

A bit of an update. The LED H3 bulbs did not arrive yet, it seems they forgot to order them. Considering the high cost, and all of my other expenses, and what you said about LED bulbs, I decided this would be a good opportunity to back out of the expensive LED bulbs. I will just buy standard incandescent H3 bulbs from an auto parts store. Of course, I probably won't get the yellow bulbs if I do this, but that's OK for now.

I got my turn signal switch with the integrated fog light switch, as well as a a wiper switch with variable intermittent settings. Should be just plug and play. I'm a bit nervous about installing them, but we'll see. The fog light relay was super easy to plug in to the fuse box, so that's done. I might even tackle installing the fog lights into the bumpers myself. We'll see. If I can do all of that, my fog lights will be installed and fully operational! (I hope). I could always go back to that car customizing shop, or any auto shop probably, and get them to install these things for me. I'll see if I can do it first and save some money, just worried I'll screw something up.

On a sidenote, I also got the dash mounted foglight switch (the older Camry/4Runner style). Although it looks like it's the same size as the opening for the removable coin holder on the left side of the steering wheel, it doesn't snap in place like the other one did (the now discontinued late 90s RAV4 switch). It could probably work with a bit of modification, but I don't think I'll even need to use it, as I'm quite confident that once the new turn signal switch is installed, the integrated fog light switch will work, should be all plug and play since my car was prewired for fog light. In fact, I'm fairly certain that most, if not all 2003-08 Corollas were prewired for fog lights, and probably Matrix too.

 

They are not all prewired. My 2003 wasn't and several members here have models that weren't. There doesn't seem to be a consistent reason why they are or aren't. My 2003 NUMMI built LE was not, but my 2005 NUMMI built CE is.

 

I finally got my fog lights put in! They look great, especially on an early 9th gen mineral green Corolla CE with the 16" 5 spoke Matrix aluminum wheels. Takes on a subtle but different look without the ground effects the Corolla S has, or the more upscale finishes the Corolla LE has, like body color side moldings, door handles, mirrors and the 15" LE wheels. I like the unique 2003-04 only color (for Corollas) mineral green. I'm thinking of taking off the black side moldings because two of them are starting to fall off. That will give it a nice, clean look.

Luckily my car was prewired for fog lights. So, it just needed a relay to plug into the fuse box and a turn signal switch with the integrated fog light switch. Plug and play! I also took the opportunity to upgrade to variable intermittent wipers with a new wiper switch. Another plug and play! I splurged and got these from Sparks Toyota as I really wanted brand new OEM for my own peace of mind and not have to worry about replacing anytime soon.

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Brand new fog lights from Toyota were good quality but way too expensive (I forget how much, but hundreds of dollars each sounds about right). Used ones were impossible to find at junkyards, so I got used ones on Ebay, total cost about $75 including shipping for the pair. Not that they really needed it, but the lenses were a bit pitted, so I got them sanded and reglazed with a UV rated coating like some places use to restore yellowed headlight lenses. And of course, another plug and play! There are aftermarket brand new fog lights, often on Ebay, cheap in price and quality (about $35 for the pair). I prefer to get OEM stuff whenever possible. Used OEM was the best option in this case.

Originally the plan was to use LED H3 bulbs, but there was a mixup and they never got ordered, so I went to an autoparts store and got standard replacement H3 bulbs for about $7 or $10 each. They're cheap, but they last a long time, unlike the super bright white PIAA headlight bulbs I recently got rid of. They only lasted 4 months. They looked good but I don't want to be driving around with burned out headlights and changing them so frequently, especially the driver's side one with the battery in the way. So I'm back to standard bulbs for all lights now.

With the lights off:



With the lights on:





Looks much better with fog lights in the front bumper than the black plastic filler covers:



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