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Old 11-19-2008, 12:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking at 05 XRS...

Title pretty much says it. Looking at a few 05 XRS Corolla's. Anything I should keep an eye out for? One has 60k, the other 70k miles. How long are these motors good for? I gotta believe whoever owns these things is driving the piss out of them...

Any input is welcome. Thanks for the help!
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You nailed it ! Beware of high mileage,being a certified vehicle helps with a traceable service record. Normally ANY Toyota 4cyl lives a long time even abused(Ive seen it first hand with over 300k miles) But you seem to be on the right track,I would be cautious with any XRS you look at.I have an 08 S and its a solid car.No complaints here as of yet.
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Old 11-22-2008, 09:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It is an extremely fun car especially once you start modding it even with basic bolt-ons as Toyota restricted the engine a lot for the Corolla XRS from the factory to meet emissions and fuel economy targets from factory. The motor is far more capable than what is experienced in stock form.

Having said that, look for clutch issues since XRS stock came with a weak clutch (the 1ZZ 5 speed stock clutch rather than the Celica GTS 6 speed clutch) and it burns very easily. Chances might be worn out. Other than that, make sure the transmission does not grind at all, which is a sign of transmission abuse (powershifting etc.).

Goodluck with finding a nice XRS that was kept in very good shape. You will love the 8400 rpm rev limit.
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Old 11-23-2008, 02:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It is an extremely fun car especially once you start modding it even with basic bolt-ons as Toyota restricted the engine a lot for the Corolla XRS from the factory to meet emissions and fuel economy targets from factory. The motor is far more capable than what is experienced in stock form.

Having said that, look for clutch issues since XRS stock came with a weak clutch (the 1ZZ 5 speed stock clutch rather than the Celica GTS 6 speed clutch) and it burns very easily. Chances might be worn out. Other than that, make sure the transmission does not grind at all, which is a sign of transmission abuse (powershifting etc.).

Goodluck with finding a nice XRS that was kept in very good shape. You will love the 8400 rpm rev limit.
YES! Absolute blast to drive, but so far no luck finding one that is up to snuff. I though I may have on friday, but when I went for test drive the CEL was coming on. I don't know if it was related or not, but I thought I felt the power cut out a few times. Like a piston was sticking or fuel was being cut...

The search shall continue...
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Old 11-23-2008, 01:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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fun car to drive, practical too. you will see your gas needle drop fairly quickly though, because the engine loves to rev at 3k or over. that 8250 redline doesn't help either. you'll find that when the AC is on, the grab point on the clutch will be different.
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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fun car to drive, practical too. you will see your gas needle drop fairly quickly though, because the engine loves to rev at 3k or over. that 8250 redline doesn't help either. you'll find that when the AC is on, the grab point on the clutch will be different.
Is it possible to get good gas mileage if I can keep control myself? According to fueleconomy.gov it looked like a hand full of people are getting high 20's.
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yep. my buddy says he's pushing 600km a tank, which would equate to 372miles. i'm pushing 400km which is 248 miles. i haven't had the car for too long, so i haven't tried to push for 600 yet. if you want to get good mileage. even with a 6th gear, i still rev at 3500 on our highways here in canada. goodluck finding an xrs though.
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yep. my buddy says he's pushing 600km a tank, which would equate to 372miles. i'm pushing 400km which is 248 miles. i haven't had the car for too long, so i haven't tried to push for 600 yet. if you want to get good mileage. even with a 6th gear, i still rev at 3500 on our highways here in canada. goodluck finding an xrs though.
You will have to excuse my ignorance here... how big are the gas tanks in these things.
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You will have to excuse my ignorance here... how big are the gas tanks in these things.
13.2 US gallons or 50 litres
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Can any other XRS owners weigh in on their gas mileage? A primary reason I am getting this car is the need for a vehicle that gets good gas mileage(and is enjoyable to drive). I have a Tundra right now that I love, but will not be able to afford when gas goes back up. If I trade it in for a Corolla and end up getting <20, I will not be a happy camper.
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I highly doubt you'll be getting under 20. The EPA estimates back in 2005 for it are 26/34, or 29 combined. The "new" updated estimates are 22/31, or 25 combined.

That's compared to the old estimate of 32/41 (36 combined) and the new estimate of 28/37 (31 combined) for the standard 5-speed Corolla.

Recall also that the XRS requires premium fuel, so take that into account when you are estimating your annual fuel cost.
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I am looking at a Corolla with just over 70k miles... will I be looking at any major services anytime soon?
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Old 11-25-2008, 05:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I am looking at a Corolla with just over 70k miles... will I be looking at any major services anytime soon?
No, not really. Unlike many other Japanese brands (some Toyotas included), these engines use timing chains rather than timing belts. So timing belt replacement isn't coming up for you. The only thing I'd do is check/replace fluids and filters.

At this point, an '05 with 70k miles is coming up on a coolant change. Go ahead and change it with the correct type coolant. No telling if it's ever been changed before. Ditto for the transaxle fluid. I don't think Toyota even HAS a mileage interval for the manual transaxle fluid, but with those miles, it'd be a good thing to get new stuff in there. Changing to a nice synthetic fluid like Redline MT-90 or similar really improves shifting from what I hear. (I just ordered 2 quarts of MT-90 today for mine!)

Other than that, just basic stuff. Make sure the tires look good. Pay attention to the performance of the struts and shocks (which should be plenty firm still). Check the condition of the brake pads and rotors. Ensure that there are no odd noises from the engine or from the transaxle.
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No, not really. Unlike many other Japanese brands (some Toyotas included), these engines use timing chains rather than timing belts. So timing belt replacement isn't coming up for you. The only thing I'd do is check/replace fluids and filters.

At this point, an '05 with 70k miles is coming up on a coolant change. Go ahead and change it with the correct type coolant. No telling if it's ever been changed before. Ditto for the transaxle fluid. I don't think Toyota even HAS a mileage interval for the manual transaxle fluid, but with those miles, it'd be a good thing to get new stuff in there. Changing to a nice synthetic fluid like Redline MT-90 or similar really improves shifting from what I hear. (I just ordered 2 quarts of MT-90 today for mine!)

Other than that, just basic stuff. Make sure the tires look good. Pay attention to the performance of the struts and shocks (which should be plenty firm still). Check the condition of the brake pads and rotors. Ensure that there are no odd noises from the engine or from the transaxle.
Wow, thanks. That is all great stuff to know.

And ditto on the MT-90. I put that in the Tacoma I had before my Tundra... like freakin butter. Truly great stuff.
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Old 11-26-2008, 04:07 PM   #15 (permalink)
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theres this new oil that 9thgens have been introduced to, its Neo 75W90HD. Some claim its better than redline mt90
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