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Old 12-11-2008, 12:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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04 ce ,noisey car or what??

2004 ce. 92,000 miles,automatic transmssion. just bought it. had michelins with 55,000 miles on them. alot of noise starting about 40 mph . sounds like wind blowing,humming sounds from the rear of car. i bought 4 new goodrich t/a pro at sam,s. noise very slightly reduced. still sounds like strong wind blowing on a antennae. whistling sound. this car has aftermarket hubcaps from pepboys. i,m thinking maybe it,s the hubcaps. or maybe one of the rear wheel bearings need replacing. OR maybe it,s just the way these corolla,s sound??
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The Corolla isn't the quietest car I've had. But it's okay, and I understand it's about the quietest SMALL car around. The problem with the Michelins was probably wear. Maybe the tires weren't rotated by the previous owner or something. That type of wear usually creates more tire noise. It's possible the hubcaps are creating the noise. It'd be easy enough to rule out: just take them off (they should pull right off) and drive for a few days and see if there's a difference. If it's a "whistling" noise, it sounds like an air leak at a window or door weather strip or something. You shouldn't hear a whistling noise at speed.

I know a number of small car Toyota owners (Corolla, Echo, etc) who have had to have rear wheel bearings replaced at what I call an early interval. I've never had to replace a wheel bearing on any of my cars before, and some of these seem to need replacing well before 100k miles. Maybe that's your problem, but from how you describe the symptom, I doubt it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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we,ll see soon=

i have a shady tree mechanic ordered for saturday. rear wheel bearings are part of the hub assembly. cost at dealer here = $375. at advance parts = $118. i hope this don,t turn into a parts changing contest. this car is starting to be a money pit. them michelins only had 55k miles. i bought the car from my bro and i know that he rotated them faithfully. he did criss/cross rotation and i figured maybe that was the problem. i just spent $400. for 4 tires i probly didn,t need. life was so easy when all i had to do was put air in my bicycle tires.
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Old 12-12-2008, 09:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You can spend money fast just shotgunning parts at cars. Don't spend money on something you're not sure of. You'll go poor in a hurry. I wouldn't put wheel bearings on it unless that mechanic can use a methanic's stethoscope while driving to pinpoint the noise to one of the bearings.
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Every wheel bearing I've had that went bad made a growling type noise. My Corolla is noisy from the back and the noise changes with tires and it also changes from one pavement surface to another. The best thing to do is jack up the back of your car and spin the wheel and if it's quiet then it's fine but if it makes a noise then you need to replace it.
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Another thought: make sure the rear seat is firmly locked in the "up" position. With the seat folded flat, you get a LOT of road noise from the truck. That seat mutes a lot of noise from back there.
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2004 ce. 92,000 miles,automatic transmssion. just bought it. had michelins with 55,000 miles on them. alot of noise starting about 40 mph . sounds like wind blowing,humming sounds from the rear of car. i bought 4 new goodrich t/a pro at sam,s. noise very slightly reduced. still sounds like strong wind blowing on a antennae. whistling sound. this car has aftermarket hubcaps from pepboys. i,m thinking maybe it,s the hubcaps. or maybe one of the rear wheel bearings need replacing. OR maybe it,s just the way these corolla,s sound??

It's unlikely that both rear bearing would go at the same time, I had a low "humming growling" sound coming from the back of my 03 for about a year that never changed, I thought it was highway noise my tires were making. No one usually sits in my backseat and one day a couple of us went to a baseball game and the guy riding in the back was a mechanic, he almost immediately told me my rear driver side wheel bearing was bad, I bought a new one from a local parts store for $73 it was a simple job except for two things, the wheel bearing hub was frozen in and it took over an hour just to get or off and I forgot how I took the drum brakes off and for the life of me couldn't find where one spring went! Tips---> continuously PB blast the flange in back(check picture) a week before doing the job and take pictures or have a repair book with pictures of the complete install of your drum breaks...good luck

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noise problem= 2 bearings !

jacked up the car. spun the wheels and no noise observed. pulled the passenger side rear wheel off. took off the hub. spun it by hand and could hear a slight abnormal noise. replaced that hub with new one. drove on interstate and noise was still there,but reduced just a little. again jacked up the car. removed driver side wheel and hub. spun it by hand and heard a louder abnormal noise. replaced it with a new one. drove it on the interstate. noise is now 100% totally "GONE". both rear bearings were bad at the same time !
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My friend I mentioned earlier with the Echo had to replace both of his rear wheel bearings at the same time, and both before 100k miles. Interesting.
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My friend I mentioned earlier with the Echo had to replace both of his rear wheel bearings at the same time, and both before 100k miles. Interesting.

I had to replace both of the front wheel bearings at the same time on my Wifes Echo and a couple of months before that I replaced one of her rear bearings. I think Toyota needs to find another bearing supplier very soon..
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jacked up the car. spun the wheels and no noise observed. pulled the passenger side rear wheel off. took off the hub. spun it by hand and could hear a slight abnormal noise. replaced that hub with new one. drove on interstate and noise was still there,but reduced just a little. again jacked up the car. removed driver side wheel and hub. spun it by hand and heard a louder abnormal noise. replaced it with a new one. drove it on the interstate. noise is now 100% totally "GONE". both rear bearings were bad at the same time !

Well I said it was unlikely didn't say it was impossible, there's probably some cars out there that had all four bearings go bad at the same time

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maybe not same time=

maybe both didn,t go bad at the same time. previous owner was unaware that even the first one was bad. driver didn,t even complain of noise when the second was bad. i bought car from previous owner, my family member. if they didn,t decide to buy a new car the driver maybe would have been driving untill both front bearings eventually wore out also. lol
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I get a lot of wind noise from 80km/h and up.


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maybe both didn,t go bad at the same time. previous owner was unaware that even the first one was bad. driver didn,t even complain of noise when the second was bad. i bought car from previous owner, my family member. if they didn,t decide to buy a new car the driver maybe would have been driving untill both front bearings eventually wore out also. lol

Heard you guys had some snow down in that area last week, that true?
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