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Old 03-03-2009, 04:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1ZZ-FE sawp to 2ZZ-GE, Exhaust system

I have a 2006 corolla with its 1ZZ-FE, does anyone know the amount of difficulty it would be to swap in a 2ZZ-GE? Also where can i find a full exhaust system, ether header-back, or cat-back and where to find a bigger header?
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I dont think you would have to many problems, other than some electrical hickups, also you will need a XRS exhuast system becouse the 1ZZ-FE has its headers at the back near the firewall and the 2ZZ-GE has its headers at the from near the radiator, you can get the exhuast system from a scrap yard or an aftermarket one, then you will need the 6-speed tranny from the XRS.
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It has been done, but it is a lot of work. A 2ZZ and C60 6 speed swapped into a Corolla S.

There are a lot of difference in the XRS and 1ZZ cars. You will even have to swap the axles in since the XRS has different axles. I think the XRS has thicker axles.
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not worth the trouble. Just sell your car and buy an XRS instead if those are your plans.
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I dont think you would have to many problems, other than some electrical hickups, also you will need a XRS exhuast system becouse the 1ZZ-FE has its headers at the back near the firewall and the 2ZZ-GE has its headers at the from near the radiator, you can get the exhuast system from a scrap yard or an aftermarket one, then you will need the 6-speed tranny from the XRS.
wrong-o. the 2zz and 1zz are the same as far as how the exhaust is routed, header in the back. maybe you saw a 2zz and mistook their intake manifold for their header since their intake manifold is also different from the 1zz's.
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wrong-o. the 2zz and 1zz are the same as far as how the exhaust is routed, header in the back. maybe you saw a 2zz and mistook their intake manifold for their header since their intake manifold is also different from the 1zz's.
I'm sorry, you're wrong-o. woot is correct. the 2zz's intake is at the front of the car, while the 1zz's intake is at the back. unless you have a donor car or something, it would take a lot of time and money. but if you do intend to carry this out, you'll need to do almost everything, computer, tranny, engine, wiring. truckload of work. try monkey wrench racing for engine and tranny etc.
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I'm sorry, you're wrong-o. woot is correct. the 2zz's intake is at the front of the car, while the 1zz's intake is at the back.


Wrong.

On the 1zz motor the intake manifold is that black plastic thing near the radiator.

The 1zz exhaust manifold (header) is behind the engine near to the firewall/interior compartment. If you remove the heat shield you can see the O2 sensor before the cat. converter.

The 2zz intake manifold is located on the front near the radiator as well but it is made of metal unlike the plastic intake manifold of the 1zz.



In regards to what was already mentioned - you would also need the ECU meant for the 2zz as well as correct transmission to work with the 2zz motor for the swap.


In the long run, you would have spent more money on "trying" to get this swap to run rather than just buying a different & faster vehicle.

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True, and good point.

If I had wanted a fast car, I'd have bought a WRX.
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Al the trouble is not worth 40 horsepower.
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Al the trouble is not worth 40 horsepower.
Summary for the person who has no clue about how different 2ZZ is from 1ZZ.

2ZZ dynos stock almost 45 wheel HP more than 1ZZ (110 wheel HP average vs 154 wheel HP stock). That is over 50 HP at the crank. Not to mention 2ZZ gear ratios/final drive, powerband, high rpm redline are all intended for best acceleration and keeping revs high as opposed to fuel economy focus of 1ZZ.

The result is, well over 1 second difference to the 1/4 mile (that is 7 - 8 car lengths on the drag strip) and over 5 mph trap speed difference. That is just a start.

That is just a starting point. Once both engines are modded, the gap between 1ZZ and 2ZZ dollar for dollar expands to downright massive.
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I think you're both correct. The differences in the 1ZZ and 2ZZ are astounding. And it's not worth the trouble to swap. If you want a 2ZZ engine, sell your car and buy an XRS. You'll spend way more time and money trying to do the swap than simply selling yours and buying one from the get-go.
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Turbocharged or supercharged engines are always better then high-revving engines, so if you want significantly better performance you sould swap the 1ZZ for a cobalt SS engine or something like that, TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE!
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Turbocharged or supercharged engines are always better then high-revving engines, so if you want significantly better performance you sould swap the 1ZZ for a cobalt SS engine or something like that, TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE!
No they are not. For every day drivability, yes torque makes it more drivable, but nothing beats the reliability of a well-built and durability of a well-modded high-revving N/A engine.

There are many turbochargers and superchargers for 2ZZ as well.
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I did it, I finished, It WAS NOT worth it.
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I dont think you would have to many problems, other than some electrical hickups, also you will need a XRS exhuast system becouse the 1ZZ-FE has its headers at the back near the firewall and the 2ZZ-GE has its headers at the from near the radiator, you can get the exhuast system from a scrap yard or an aftermarket one, then you will need the 6-speed tranny from the XRS.
Does it bolt to the stock 03 5 speed? I have an emanage....
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