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Old 06-13-2009, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2ZZ-GE: SC interesting web find...

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http://www.oguraclutch.co.jp/english/e_news.html

Could this be the supercharger found on: Corolla Compressor (europe), and perhaps Lotus Elise SC???

It's giving me crazy ideas!!! I know that the cost would be insane for the upgrade, but it would just be awesome.
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Oh hell yeah! 225hp would be a kick to drive in a Corolla..Go for it.!
Post pics of the install and finished set up...
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Old 06-14-2009, 02:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm just wondering if anyone has imported one of the superchargers for their car (excluding the cars that come with them stock). Clearly the install requires the reloacation of the altenator, a larger serpentine belt, and the dip-stick tube has to be rotated (or custom).

This would clearly be much easier on a Celica GT-S due to the space in the engine bay, and this supercharger 'looks' smaller than most of the aftermarket ones for the 2ZZ-GE. My Biggest issue would be space; it just doesn't look like there's enough room in the Corolla's bay.




Hahah, I guess I can't say no I don't wan't to do it!!!
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That was for the Corolla T-Sport in Europe built by TTE. It does not fit well in the Corolla XRS since location of a few things is different such as, radiator, intake etc.

225 HP with supercharger is weak to begin with considering it is easily possible to squeeze 225 HP@ crank out of 2ZZ with a few bolt-ons (intake/race header/exhaust) and Apexi PFC tune (185 - 190 wheel HP).

There are several Greddy charged Corolla XRS in North America that put out way more than TTE T-Sport did (which was 225 HP). The Greddy charged XRS put down 220 wheel HP (250 HP@ crank) in the most base form and up to 260 wheel HP (close to 300 HP@ crank) with lots of tuning.

All in all, it is not worth the effort to get the TTE supercharger since the Greddy supercharger works much better with the XRS and makes a lot more HP as well.
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Yeah, but that Euro 'charged design/install looks SO clean.
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Suprcharged is nice, but has anyone checked out the TRD japan race pistons? It would cost about $2000 for the pistons, $100 for the rings, and shipping to where ever you are, but the dyno chart on the TRD japan site says 225 WHP with just those and a TRD sport exhaust. That's all motor. No S/C heat soak as your track day wears on cutting your times down (talk to any GM guy with the 2.4L Twin cam or L61 GMPP S/C kit about that), no extra weight, no need for intercoolers, no water/methanol injection. Just put 'em in there and away you go.

Also, if that's 220 HP at the crank, you could easily build that with very little more than tuning and bolt ons. If the 2ZZGE is as potent as they say it is, 250-300 HP should be a pretty easy build with the right money. Even with bolt-ons and the TRD S/C, a 1ZZFE 03/04 should be able to put down similar numbers.
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That was for the Corolla T-Sport in Europe built by TTE. It does not fit well in the Corolla XRS since location of a few things is different such as, radiator, intake etc.

225 HP with supercharger is weak to begin with considering it is easily possible to squeeze 225 HP@ crank out of 2ZZ with a few bolt-ons (intake/race header/exhaust) and Apexi PFC tune (185 - 190 wheel HP).

There are several Greddy charged Corolla XRS in North America that put out way more than TTE T-Sport did (which was 225 HP). The Greddy charged XRS put down 220 wheel HP (250 HP@ crank) in the most base form and up to 260 wheel HP (close to 300 HP@ crank) with lots of tuning.

All in all, it is not worth the effort to get the TTE supercharger since the Greddy supercharger works much better with the XRS and makes a lot more HP as well.
Thanks for the info as always silver04rollas. I was just hoping that maybe it would be possible to use the supercharger found on Compressor (europe), as it was clean (JasonA ) and technically OEM. Clearly space is the main problem with throwing forced induction on the 2ZZ-GE in a Corolla engine bay!

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http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_engine-2zz-ge.html

I checked them out before your mention! However I noted:

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Original cylinder head form was changed on 03.3. Vehicle on 03.3 are devided into two different types, one before the change and one after the change. Please make sure the application with below instruction.
Looks like there was a head change that took place on build dates after March XX, 2003 (if i'm correct). Therefore these TRD pistons would really only work on (US/Can) Celica GT-S's, before the March XX, 2003 build date. I see gains of approx 26hp on their graph. Which is decent. It would be the cherry on the top to an all motor with PFC, CAI, headers/exhaust.

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26 horsepower from 4 slugs of forged aluminum is pretty good, I'd say. Whether it's (potentially) $2500+ good or not, who knows. At that point, a cam regrind and larger intake manifold would probably be in the build beyond a few simple bolt-ons. And with the amount of air being gulped in at that point, you may even need larger injectors, and the fuel system may need re-mapping. All in all, it could be a great all-motor build with some hard work. Whether it would be streetable at that point, I'm not sure. I imagine unless you went with a really aggressive cam grind, it would be pretty drivable still.
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It would be streetable sure. But in regards to a daily driver (in my case: city DD); it's pushing it. I personally would be throwing in a slightly more robust clutch when putting +30whp on an XRS as well.
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I always forget about drivetrain. You could add a Fidanza/other brand flywheel for snappier revs, too. Not sure about LSD, but it couldn't hurt.
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or you can just buy the greddy s/c fro the 2zz celica and put it in. just a thought. people on 9thgen have been using the greddy s/c for sometime now.
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If you want anything from Europe, just get me the part numbers and I can get you a quote.

Incidentally, anything from TTE (Team Toyota Europe) now have official Toyota part numbers so I can get those parts as well from my guy. For example, I swapped my wife's headlights on her Celica with the OEM German HID headlights and I am in the process of getting the TTE rear wing for her Celica as well. I also gathered all the parts for the OEM rear fog lamps for her celica as well.

So like if someone was interested in the TTE turbo kit for the MRS, I just have to call up my guy and give him the part number for it and he can have it delivered anywhere in the US.
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