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Old 09-25-2009, 03:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I remember the Celica GT engine had 140 HP (GTS = of course the 180 similar to XRS). I wonder if the Celica GT engine with light mods would be a neat compromise for a Corolla. Lot's of work though.
If you're planning on doing that, you might as well just trade your car in for an XRS.
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Old 09-25-2009, 04:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If you're planning on doing that, you might as well just trade your car in for an XRS.
Yeah, I know. Just like to think of weird unique mods. I was thinking a 140 HP Celica GT engine lightly modded would give a decent boost in power but still have better mpg than XRS. Perhaps not, I haven't checked out the older MPG figures for the Celica GT in a while.

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LOL it's rated at 23/30, while the XRS is at 22/31. \

The modifications would push that number down further and after all that trouble it will still be slower so what's the point?
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:50 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The Celica GT had the 1ZZ-FED engine, didn't it? It didn't have the 2ZZ-GE like the XRS had. The 140 hp vs. the 126 hp for the "standard" 1ZZ-FE engine was due to a different fuel injection system, right?
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Correct, it also has lighter rods. The 1ZZ-FED like the 2ZZ-GE was built in Japan.
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Fair enough. Guess I won't do much of anything to this car except mod it as is. Low mileage (108 K - KM). Perhaps just intake and exhaust. Anyways, it was just a curiosity.
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LOL it's rated at 23/30, while the XRS is at 22/31.

The modifications would push that number down further and after all that trouble it will still be slower so what's the point?
Slower than?

Fuel mileage more like 26/34 for the XRS.

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Slower than?

Fuel mileage more like 26/34 for the XRS.

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Oddly enough... that's what I remember the ratings to be too.

I got mine from edmunds, but lately they seem to have adjusted the fuel economy ratings retroactively to reflect the new EPA standards. I noticed the same thing with my car as well, my 7th gen was previously rated 27/34, but now it shows only 25/32....very odd.
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I got mine from edmunds, but lately they seem to have adjusted the fuel economy ratings retroactively to reflect the new EPA standards. I noticed the same thing with my car as well, my 7th gen was previously rated 27/34, but now it shows only 25/32....very odd.
It's simply a new method under which they measure fuel economy. It includes faster acceleration rates, the use of A/C, a slower average speed to account for more average traffic volume, etc. The 2008 and later ratings are using the new method, and EPA uses a formula to approximate what an older vehicle would achieve if tested under the current method, so you can have an apples-to-apples comparison. Some 9th gen figures:

A 1ZZ-FE auto went from 30/38 (33 combined) to 26/35 (29 combined)
A 1ZZ-FE manual went from 32/41 (36 combined) to 28/37 (31 combined)
A 2ZZ-GE went from 26/34 (29 combined) to 22/31 (25 combined)

Although the window stickers for 2007 and earlier models had a higher figure, most folks quote the "corrected" number to be able to compare an older car with newer ones.
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Thanks for clearing that up JasonA.

Personally, I found that with my driving style even now, I consistently meet the older conservative EPA ratings.
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Personally, I found that with my driving style even now, I consistently meet the older conservative EPA ratings.
Me too. I normally had no trouble beating the old ratings. They revised them to better reflect how most folks drive today, and now I'm killing them. I'm almost averaging the new highway MPG rating in my '07 (37 MPG) on my daily suburban commuting.
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Ok, so those idea's were lame....

So what's the best fuel-economy anybody has gotten from their 1.8L Corolla XRS?
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Ok, so those idea's were lame....

So what's the best fuel-economy anybody has gotten from their 1.8L Corolla XRS?
silver04rollas has already answered your question in great detail, if you need another answer, you can PM Exage as he owns an XRS too.

In short, not many people buy the XRS for fuel economy. But that's not to say that good numbers aren't possible if you drive like a granny. Those come down to your driving style.

This topic has gotten way off topic and been all over the place. Locked.
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