Should I buy 2005 Toyota Corolla without ABS? I am currently living in Minnesota. As you know it snows a lot here. I am getting a good deal on this car as the mileage are less.
So should I go only for cars only with ABS? Suggestion ???
My corolla S is an 05.. most corollas of the 9th gen dont have ABS..... back then most cars didnt come with abs, and if they did it was always an option never standard... maybe a few vehicles had it standard but they were more of the mid-sized sedans
i find my braking very... soft... lots of play before they really start clamping down on your wheels.... its up to you really..... if you want ABS just by a used 10 gen
and btw your car will only stop as good as your tires can...... so dont always balme stopping distances on the car your in... blame the TIRES!!!!!!!
most of the stopping distances taken by reviewers had the stock crap tires on the corolla.....
the 9th gen corolla weighted about 300-500 lbs lighter than its competitors of the same class so.....
if they say that corollas have bad stopping distances.... its soly because toyota was cheap on the stock tires it threw on 9th gen corollas lol......
Last edited by impulseRED; 10-29-2009 at 08:17 PM.
Should I buy 2005 Toyota Corolla without ABS? I am currently living in Minnesota. As you know it snows a lot here. I am getting a good deal on this car as the mileage are less.
So should I go only for cars only with ABS? Suggestion ???
I wouldn't necessarily discount one just because it didn't have ABS...though they all SHOULD have had it. Most every small car from the day had it. And "the day" is only 4 or 5 years ago! ABS has been a pretty standard thing for over a decade now. Even my 12 year old Dodge Dakota has it.
Anyway, my Corolla doesn't have it. It stops in snow well...just have to be careful. I have Yokohama Avid TRZ tires, which are pretty good on snow I believe. Stopping is pretty short. On dry pavement, mine stops on a dime. I REALLY like these OEM brakes. They're ceramic, and there's almost no dust. But they really grab also. They're a great compromise in my opinion. My car does have a manual transmission, which makes slowing down in snow much easier, so you may not have the same experience with an automatic. My car has 28k miles, and wear on the front brakes is not discernable. Most reports indicate that the front pads on these cars should last well past 50k miles, sometimes 100k miles with stick shift cars.
My '05 does not have ABS. Honestly I never notice it's gone (previous cars have had ABS and traction control) until an emergency situation (avoiding deer). In that case I can hear and feel the tires lock up. The car never goes out of control, but I'm fully aware that steering abilities are compromised.
If the Corolla was a heavier car, then lack of ABS would be a huge issue. Since it is so light, you can generally get the car stopped without locking the brakes.
Without ABS is a no no for me. It should be a must have feature on every car on the road. Lets say your in a situlation where the car in front stops short and you slam on the brakes. Without ABS your wheels will lock up and have no control over the car if you try to steer over to the next lane. With ABS your wheels will not lock up giving you the control to steer around the car avoiding a possible accident.
Here's a video from Fifth Gear that shows you what these driving aids can do for you.
My 07 does not have it either. The 07 Civic that I also drove did have ABS, along with discs at each corner. I just didn't like the Civic... it left me a bit cold. I've never had an issue with no ABS, but the next car I buy I'll make sure it's there, I want all the advantages towards my safety that I can get.
Side note: Jason, I get TONS of brake dust from my fronts. It really bugs me as cleaning the mesh wheels I put on is a bear! Maybe, as mine is an auto, I don't downshift like you are able to?!?
Should I buy 2005 Toyota Corolla without ABS? I am currently living in Minnesota. As you know it snows a lot here. I am getting a good deal on this car as the mileage are less.
So should I go only for cars only with ABS? Suggestion ???
anti lock brake is not always the case, is your driving style. that is my 2 cents.
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Heard a news report a number of years back, where the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety in the US had found no notable benefit re. ABS in respect to insurance claims amount$ or injury claims. The study spanned 10 years, believe it was from 1995 to 2005.
Side note: Jason, I get TONS of brake dust from my fronts. It really bugs me as cleaning the mesh wheels I put on is a bear! Maybe, as mine is an auto, I don't downshift like you are able to?!?
Probably. Though I know these are ceramic pads, and those are generally pretty dust-free. Do you know that yours are the original pads?
I have driven an 05 LE without ABS for several years in the North East on both snow and ice without incident. ABS while a good addition doesn't replace or fix bad driving habits when driving in snow, ice or rain. Biggest suggestion I have on the 05 is get rid of the OEM tires if it still has them. The OEM Bridgestone tires (the Insigna 2000 I think) that came with my car were awful on snow or ice. Car would slip and slide all over the place in winter time and as such ABS wouldn't help. Replaced them with some all weather Michelin X Radial (DT) last year and the car handled much better on the snow and ice this past winter.
How do you like the Michelins overall on your car? The X Radial was the other tire I was considering, besides the Yokohama Avid TRZ that I did buy. I've owned two other sets of the X Radial on two other vehicles, and they're fantastic; perhaps the best all-season value going these days.
Specifically, how do you rate noise and ride harshness? The Yokohamas seem to be biased towards performance, though I will say, they drive perfectly on snow. We had about 8" of hard pack last winter and they tracked great.
The Michelin X Radial (DT) were like night and day on an 05 LE compared to the stock tires. The car no longer slid around tight corners if the pavement was wet. They are a little more noisy and a little stiffer but over all they ride well. On New England snow and ice they are much better than the stock tires. I am kicking myself for not replacing the tires sooner. These tires were among the highest rated all season tires by Consumer Reports last year but now Consumer Reports lists the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred and Michelin HydroEdge among their top tires now for all weather conditions.
The only issue with the Michelin X Radial (DT) tires were where they were sold. The membership stores like Costco and Sam's Club were the only place that carried them. But I got lucky and got the tires during one of Costco Michelin sales so the tires wound up being something like $80 per tire.
The original stock tires on my 05 LE only had 32,000 miles on them and there was a fair amount of tread life left, however they were already showing some pretty heavy dry rot cracking on the side of the tires (all four of them) along the area where the tread is bonded to the sidewall of the tire. After the tires the only other thing (other than normal fluid maintenance) that have been done to my 05 was replacing the serpentine belt about two months back. Took about 10 minutes to do that job myself and saved myself around $100 if I had the dealership do it. Everything else is OEM on the car.
Probably. Though I know these are ceramic pads, and those are generally pretty dust-free. Do you know that yours are the original pads?
I still have the OEM pads on my car - I'm at 37,000 miles now. I honestly get a great deal of dust from these pads - and I consider myself a pretty easy guy on the "slow pedal" when driving. Not too much of a big deal to me, except for cleaning time, and only then due to the wheels I put on!
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These tires were among the highest rated all season tires by Consumer Reports last year but now Consumer Reports lists the Goodyear Assurance TripleTred and Michelin HydroEdge among their top tires now for all weather conditions. 
After the tires the only other thing (other than normal fluid maintenance) that have been done to my 05 was replacing the serpentine belt about two months back. Took about 10 minutes to do that job myself and saved myself around $100 if I had the dealership do it. Everything else is OEM on the car.
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