9th generation brakes DIY

[John Anthony]

Anyone have the exact directions for doing a brake job on the 9th gen Corolla? This should include directions to remove the rotors for resurfacing. For the rear, I just need directions for replacing the shoes. I don't have ABS. Thanks to whomever can help.

2004 Corolla LE, 133K miles, Amsoil Signature Series oil and Ea By-Pass filter, Amsoil ATF, Mann,Wix,Beck/Arnley filters.

[edkate]

We need to change rear brake pads as well in our 2004 Corolla.

I have called a few shops around to get pricing. I asked: how much is gonna cost to replace rear rotors and pad? - from 300 to $400.

Then i called the last shop and the guy says: Corolla doesnt have REAR rotors and pads, it has shoes!!!! and then he gave me a price....


I wonder why other shops didnt correct me and told me what this guy has told me.....to rip me off?

A QUESTION:

2004 COROLLA WOULD HAVE REAR SHOES not REAR ROTORS AND PADS?

[mikered30]

www.9thgencorolla.com has what you are looking for.

[touringcamry]

Originally Posted by edkate

We need to change rear brake pads as well in our 2004 Corolla.

I have called a few shops around to get pricing. I asked: how much is gonna cost to replace rear rotors and pad? - from 300 to $400.

Then i called the last shop and the guy says: Corolla doesnt have REAR rotors and pads, it has shoes!!!! and then he gave me a price....

They figure some people might not care or know the difference. It these situations, it's less work to not explain the difference or explain the difference when they go into the shop and point out the difference visually.

$300-400 to replaces shoes and replace the drums sound about right.

[edkate]

Thank you for your reply!

Btw, how do you know when to replace Rear drum or shoe?

When i press on my breaks, it squeaks horribly! (only when i press the brakes, i know it's the rear one as i changed front rotors and pads last May)

[touringcamry]

You can inspect the wear by pulling the drums off.

[dorman68]

Here is a complete service instructions for the front brake system. It also gives you instructions to service the hydraulic parts which you wont need to touch because you are only replacing the pads and rotors.



: Toyota Corolla L4-1.8L (1ZZ-FE)

Vehicle Level Brakes and Traction Control Disc Brake System Service and Repair Service and RepairNotesFRONT BRAKE



COMPONENTS

OVERHAUL

HINT: Use the same procedures for the RH side and LH side. The procedures listed below are for the LH side.

1. REMOVE FRONT WHEEL
2. DRAIN BRAKE FLUID NOTICE: Wash brake fluid off immediately if it adheres to any painted surface.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE CYLINDER SUB-ASSEMBLY

• 1. Remove the union bolt and gasket from the disc brake cylinder, then disconnect the flexible hose. HINT: Gasket has 2 types: 2-piece type and 1-piece type.

• 1. Remove the 2 bolts and disc brake cylinder.

1. REMOVE DISC BRAKE PAD KIT FRONT (PAD ONLY)

• 1. Remove the 2 brake pads with anti-squeal shims.
  2. Remove the anti-squeal shim No.1 and anti-squeal shim No.2 from each pad.
  3. Remove the indicator plate from inner pad.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE PAD SUPPORT PLATE

• 1. Remove the pad support plate (No.1) from the cylinder mounting.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE PAD SUPPORT PLATE

• 1. Remove the pad support plate (No.2) from the cylinder mounting.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE CYLINDER SLIDE PIN

• 1. Remove the 2 cylinder slide pins from the cylinder mounting.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE CYLINDER MOUNTING LH

• 1. Remove the 2 bolts and cylinder mounting.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE BUSH DUST BOOT

• 1. Place the cylinder mounting in a vise.
  2. Using a screwdriver and a hammer, remove the 2 bush dust boots from the cylinder mounting.

1. REMOVE CYLINDER BOOT

• 1. Using a screwdriver, remove the set ring and cylinder boot.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE PISTON

• 1. Place a piece of shop rag or equivalent between the piston and the disc brake cylinder assembly.
  2. Use compressed air to remove the piston from the disc brake cylinder assembly. CAUTION: Do not place your fingers in front of the piston when using compressed air. NOTICE: Do not spatter the brake fluid.

1. REMOVE PISTON SEAL

• 1. Using a screwdriver, remove the piston seal from the disc brake cylinder assembly. NOTICE: Do not damage the inner cylinder and cylinder groove.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC BRAKE BLEEDER PLUG
2. INSPECT BRAKE CYLINDER AND PISTON

• 1. Check the cylinder bore and piston for rust or scoring. If necessary, replace the disc brake cylinder assembly and piston.

1. INSPECT PAD LINING THICKNESS

• 1. Using a ruler, measure the pad lining thickness. Standard thickness: 11.0 mm (0.433 inch) Minimum thickness: 1.0 mm (0.039 inch) If the pad lining thickness is equal to the minimum thickness or less, replace the brake pad kit front.

1. INSPECT FRONT DISC BRAKE PAD SUPPORT PLATE

• 1. Make sure that both plates have sufficient rebound, have no deformation, cracks or wear, and that all rust and dirt are cleaned off. If necessary, replace the pad support plate (No.1).

1. INSPECT FRONT DISC BRAKE PAD SUPPORT PLATE

• 1. Make sure that both plates have sufficient rebound, have no deformation, cracks or wear, and that all rust and dirt are cleaned off. If necessary, replace the pad support plate (No.2).

1. INSPECT DISC THICKNESS

• 1. Using a micrometer, measure the disc thickness. Standard thickness: 25.0 mm (0.984 inch) Minimum thickness: 23.0 mm (0.906 inch) If the disc thickness is less than the minimum, replace the disc.

1. REMOVE FRONT DISC

• 1. Put matchmarks on the disc and the axle hub.
  2. Remove the front disc.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC

• 1. Aligning the matchmarks, install the front disc. NOTICE: When replacing the disc with a new one, select the installation position where the front disc has the minimum runout.

1. INSPECT DISC RUNOUT

• 1. Check the bearing play in the axial direction and check for the axle hub runout.
  2. Temporarily fasten the front disc together with the hub nuts. Torque: 103 Nm (1,050 kgf-cm, 76 ft. lbs.)
  3. Using a dial indicator, measure the disc runout 10 mm (0.39 inch) away from the outer edge of the front disc. Maximum disc runout: 0.05 mm (0.0020 inch) If the runout exceeds the maximum value, change the installation positions of the disc and axle so that the runout will become minimal. If the runout exceeds the maximum even when the installation positions are changed, grind the disc. If the disc thickness is less than the minimum, replace the front disc.

1. TEMPORARILY TIGHTEN FRONT DISC BRAKE BLEEDER PLUG
2. INSTALL PISTON SEAL

• 1. Apply lithium soap base glycol grease to a new piston seal.
  2. Install the piston seal to the disc brake cylinder assembly.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE PISTON

• 1. Apply the lithium soap base glycol grease to the piston.
  2. Install the piston to the disc brake cylinder assembly. NOTICE: Do not screw the piston forcedly in the disc brake cylinder assembly.

1. INSTALL CYLINDER BOOT

• 1. Apply the lithium soap base glycol grease to a new cylinder boot.
  2. Install the cylinder boot to the disc brake cylinder assembly. HINT: Install the boot securely to the grooves of the cylinder and piston.
  3. Using a screwdriver, install the set ring. NOTICE: Do not damage the cylinder boot.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE BUSH DUST BOOT

• 1. Place the cylinder mounting in a vise.
  2. Apply the lithium soap base glycol grease to seal surface of 2 new bush dust boots.
  3. Using a socket wrench (19 mm) and a hammer, drive the 2 bush dust boots in the cylinder mounting.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE CYLINDER MOUNTING LH

• 1. Install the cylinder mounting with the 2 bolts. Torque: 107 Nm (1,089 kgf-cm, 79 ft. lbs.)

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE CYLINDER SLIDE PIN

• 1. Apply the lithium soap base glycol grease to the sliding part of the 2 cylinder slide pins.
  2. Install the 2 cylinder slide pins to the cylinder mounting.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE PAD SUPPORT PLATE

• 1. Install the pad support plate (No.1) to the cylinder mounting.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE PAD SUPPORT PLATE

• 1. Install the pad support plate (No.2) to the cylinder mounting.

1. INSTALL DISC BRAKE PAD KIT FRONT (PAD ONLY) NOTICE: When replacing the brake pads, the anti-squeal shims must be replaced together with the brake pads.

• 1. Apply disc brake grease to each anti-squeal shim No.1.
  2. Install the anti-squeal shims on each pad.
  3. Install the indicator plate to the upper side of the inner pad.
  4. Install the brake pads to the cylinder mounting. NOTICE: Install the brake pads in correct position and direction.

1. INSTALL FRONT DISC BRAKE CYLINDER SUB-ASSEMBLY

• 1. Install the disc brake cylinder with the 2 bolts. Torque: 34 Nm (350 kgf-cm, 25 ft. lbs.)

• 1. Install a new gasket and flexible hose with the union bolt. Torque: 29 Nm (296 kgf-cm, 21 ft. lbs.) NOTICE: Install the flexible hose lock securely in the lock hole in the disc brake cylinder. HINT: Gasket has 2 types: 2-piece type and 1-piece type.

1. FILL RESERVOIR WITH BRAKE FLUID
2. BLEED MASTER CYLINDER SST 09023-00101
3. BLEED BRAKE LINE
4. CHECK FLUID LEVEL IN RESERVOIR
5. CHECK FOR BRAKE FLUID LEAKAGE
6. INSTALL FRONT WHEEL Torque: 103 Nm (1,050 kgf-cm, 76 ft. lbs.)

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[tarbasd]

Haynes manual is also pretty good for this, and it is cheap, too.

Some 9th gen corollas do have disk rear brakes, don't they? At least the XRS?

[John Anthony]

When you call a shop and ask about replacing/turning rear "pads" and "rotors", and they don't clarify with you that the rear has shoes and drums, it's not necessarily them trying to pull a fast one on you. They assume you don't know the difference and really the difference doesn't matter: Pads and shoes are conceptually the same thing. Rotors and drums are conceptually the same thing as well. It's like calling a shop and asking about flushing your transmission "oil". They might not tell you that it's actually "fluid" because it doesn't really matter. They know what you mean.