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Old 01-16-2011, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alignment Issues with Corolla 2005

I took my 2005 Corolla (55K) miles to Sears auto to replace front two tires as they were worn out. They suggested wheel realignment too. After the wheel alignment, the technician said the rear toe angle and left front castor angle couldn't be adjusted as they are no factor adjustments available for these angles. Not sure what this means.

Is it a problem with my specific vehicle or with the model and how to correct it. Thanks in advance.

Sam
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sears is correct, rear toe cannot be adjusted unless shims are used. If you do not get it fixed you will continue to eat through tires. Toyota may insist that the rear torsion beam must be replaced to get into alignment, but dont let them do that. Talk to them and see what they say.
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Yes you need to have them install shims. I used to do those when I worked in a shop. I remember Chrysler minivans used those all the time. It requires removing the rear brakes. It is expensive, but should last for a while. I had to have shims put on our 06 Corolla as early as 24,000 miles. We got new tires at 50,000 and the rears were still in spec. Most likely most of the alignment wear and tear on the rear is just the car suspension breaking in.
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Sears is correct, rear toe cannot be adjusted unless shims are used. If you do not get it fixed you will continue to eat through tires. Toyota may insist that the rear torsion beam must be replaced to get into alignment, but dont let them do that. Talk to them and see what they say.
I've got a question. Does everyone notice that thier rear torsion bar looks bent. I have looked at 3 corollas and it seems that they are all like that. I have a theory that this happens whenever they lift the car to do maintenance. If the torsion beam is specified as a lift point I can see it happening. What do you guys think.
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Mine looks kinda bent too, but I noticed this before they did an alignment check the 2nd time... this was after they did shims about a year earlier and the rear was still in spec.
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Mine looks kinda bent too, but I noticed this before they did an alignment check the 2nd time... this was after they did shims about a year earlier and the rear was still in spec.
I know. Just seems odd to me that they all look bent and this is normal? My rear toe was off a little but my alinement man said he would not worry about it since my rear tires looked ok. Still I gotta think if this is a lift point on this car it can't be doing it any good.
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Ya, I wouldn't put a jack on that beam.
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Ya, I wouldn't put a jack on that beam.
Believe it or not I use to own heavy american V8 and sixes and those things were like tanks. Never did do any tire rotations or alinements. Like I said those things were built like tanks. I don't want to tell my age but I distinctly remember jacking my old fords oldsmobile and Cadilliacs by the front and rear bumpers as those bumpers were built to support the weight of the whole car. Try that now! with todays unibodied cars.
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I took my 2005 Corolla (55K) miles to Sears auto to replace front two tires as they were worn out. They suggested wheel realignment too. After the wheel alignment, the technician said the rear toe angle and left front castor angle couldn't be adjusted as they are no factor adjustments available for these angles. Not sure what this means.

Is it a problem with my specific vehicle or with the model and how to correct it. Thanks in advance.

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Castor is not adjustable. If the car doesn't pull, don't worry about it. Rear toe can cause handling problems if it is too negative. I do alignments at my job and would be glad to advise you if there was any way you could post the alignment readings.
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Castor is not adjustable. If the car doesn't pull, don't worry about it. Rear toe can cause handling problems if it is too negative. I do alignments at my job and would be glad to advise you if there was any way you could post the alignment readings.
I assume front camber cannot be changed either? Does anyone use shims?

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Castor is not adjustable. If the car doesn't pull, don't worry about it. Rear toe can cause handling problems if it is too negative. I do alignments at my job and would be glad to advise you if there was any way you could post the alignment readings.
Just curious. When you do alignments do you use the rear torsion beam as a lift point?
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I assume front camber cannot be changed either? Does anyone use shims?
Front camber can be adjusted slightly, only a few tenths of a degree before you need cam type adjusters put in. Shims can be used for rear adjustments, but not the front.
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Just curious. When you do alignments do you use the rear torsion beam as a lift point?
The beam itself is not a lift point. It will bend easily. The round ends at the wheels are plenty strong for lifting, that's where I grab 'em.
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Sears couldn't take a print out of the alignment as it seems the OS is incompatible with the printer. I will take it to the dealer to find out the angle measurements and then post. Thanks for the respone. -Sam
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